Looking at purchasing a Tesoro. My choices are the Vaquero or Tejon and more towards the Tejon due to the trigger feature. Need a ground balance machine that's why these two are my choices and I wouldn't be able to use the pinpoint feature on the Vaquero. I hear that the Tejon is noiser and not as stable but that could be from incorrect settings. Was considering a MXT but weight is an issue also. PM me your input if you wish to not get caught up in a debate but all input will be appreciated. Will be coinshooting and jewelry hunting in Pa. soil.
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Help from Tesoro users
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LittleJohn
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I run a Tejon as my main machine. I don't have any time behind a vaquero yet, so I cannot comment on its performance. I will tell you this about the Tejon, I have hunted parks, tot lots, ball fields, farmer fields, old houses, foundations...you name it, right here in PA soil, and I can tell you that it is very easy to work with.
Ground balancing is very quick once you do it a few times, and you can even tell when the ground mineralization changes as you are searching as it will start to give you a little chatter.....real simple....dial it back in and keep on hunting. I have not noticed any instability, unless I am around high power lines or other forms of strong EMI.
The Tejon will serve you well for jewelry as well. I have several silver rings and a silver bracelet, plus several necklace pendants to the credit of the Tejon. And for coin shooting...it will show you the goods, so be ready to dig. The most important thing with it is to set you discrimination to where you want it, and then dig everything. After a while you will start to hear the different beeps and blips and how it reacts to certain targets....once you learn it's language...it's game on...and that wont take you very long....couple weeks and you should have it down pat.
I like the Tejon for the dual discrimination, and the all metal trigger pinpoint....Tesoro hit it out of the park on this machine in my opinion.
Good luck with your choice, let us know what you decide and how it works out for you.
LittleJohn
Ground balancing is very quick once you do it a few times, and you can even tell when the ground mineralization changes as you are searching as it will start to give you a little chatter.....real simple....dial it back in and keep on hunting. I have not noticed any instability, unless I am around high power lines or other forms of strong EMI.
The Tejon will serve you well for jewelry as well. I have several silver rings and a silver bracelet, plus several necklace pendants to the credit of the Tejon. And for coin shooting...it will show you the goods, so be ready to dig. The most important thing with it is to set you discrimination to where you want it, and then dig everything. After a while you will start to hear the different beeps and blips and how it reacts to certain targets....once you learn it's language...it's game on...and that wont take you very long....couple weeks and you should have it down pat.
I like the Tejon for the dual discrimination, and the all metal trigger pinpoint....Tesoro hit it out of the park on this machine in my opinion.
Good luck with your choice, let us know what you decide and how it works out for you.
LittleJohn
I went with the Vaquero, because it's lighter, less expensive, close to the same depth and it's suppose to be more stable from what I read.
The dual discrimination with a trigger pull on the Tejon sounds interesting, but I like the simplicity of the Vaquero.
I love my Tesoro detectors.
The dual discrimination with a trigger pull on the Tejon sounds interesting, but I like the simplicity of the Vaquero.
I love my Tesoro detectors.
I had a DFX, MXT & XL Pro and the weight of them was a hindrance for this senior citizen. I did my research and settled on the Tejon. I was so impressed, I purchased the Vaquero as a backup
Their light weight lets me swing for a while longer with no shoulder pain or soreness. They hit hard on targets ! As far as noise and being unstable I have never had any problems, except under power lines. They run smooth and quite when in discrimination. Tesoro has brought the fun back into detecting.
Take a look at youtube : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L10NQcT7YDo Excellant series on the Vaquero
Their light weight lets me swing for a while longer with no shoulder pain or soreness. They hit hard on targets ! As far as noise and being unstable I have never had any problems, except under power lines. They run smooth and quite when in discrimination. Tesoro has brought the fun back into detecting.Take a look at youtube : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L10NQcT7YDo Excellant series on the Vaquero
I am not going to give you any advice here even though a Tesoro Vaquero is my main machine. When I start up here's how I do it. First I turn on the machine by turning the sensitivity knob clockwise and set the level where I want it. Usually 9 or 10. Then I go up and set the threshold knob. Then its time to ground balance increasing or decreasing the ground balance by the sound made as the coil approaches the ground. Finally I set my discrimination. That's 4 knobs I adjusted even before I made my first sweep, nothing for most folks yes but given your disability I honestly don't know if you could do it. Now that's on the Vaquero only. I do not know about the Tejon. I have never used one.
If you like one day next week the Senor Vaquero and I can take a trip down your way and we can head out back and you can give it a whirl and see how it goes. I'd hate to see you spend money on a detector that you are going to turn right around and sell a few weeks later because you can't handle it properly.
FYI the easiest to turn on, adjust and go machine I know of is the Tesoro Compadre. One knob.
If you like one day next week the Senor Vaquero and I can take a trip down your way and we can head out back and you can give it a whirl and see how it goes. I'd hate to see you spend money on a detector that you are going to turn right around and sell a few weeks later because you can't handle it properly.
FYI the easiest to turn on, adjust and go machine I know of is the Tesoro Compadre. One knob.
just tryin to get a handle on the tejon disc can you disc up to say a gold ring so cut out all sounds up to the ring and then down to the ring cutting out the tones down to the ring and have them both working at the same time? am i right or no? so only hearing the ring?
cheers for the help
AJ
cheers for the help
AJ
Have used Cibola and Tejon but not a Vaquero yet. Cibola should be very similar to the Vaquero.
Tejon is a little deeper. It sometimes gets a little chatty when the sensitivity is turned way up into the red part of the adjustment or if the ground balance is a little too negative. It can be set up to run very quiet. I think the retune in pinpoint mode is a little too fast when sizing a target. The retune is just enough slower with the Cibola (and I presume the Vaquero) to make sizing targets easier.
The dual discriminators can be handy, but it doesn't take much longer to thumb a single discriminator to get information about the target's conductivity.
If you are going to spend much time with one of the big coils (3.6 x 18 clean sweep or the 12 x 10 DD) they make the Cibola feel very nose heavy but aren't bad at all on the Tejon.
To address amberjack's question; only one of the discriminators is active at a time. The Tejon runs on the first discriminator setting with the trigger switch in it's normal, centered, position. So in the example, first discriminator would be set so you hear the ring. Pushing the trigger forward activates the second discriminator. With the second discriminator set to discriminate out the ring, the detector does not beep on the ring with the trigger pushed forward. Then you can pull the trigger to pin point to size the target to see if you have a big loose wad of aluminum foil that is the same conductivity as the ring, or a small target that might be a ring.
tvr
Tejon is a little deeper. It sometimes gets a little chatty when the sensitivity is turned way up into the red part of the adjustment or if the ground balance is a little too negative. It can be set up to run very quiet. I think the retune in pinpoint mode is a little too fast when sizing a target. The retune is just enough slower with the Cibola (and I presume the Vaquero) to make sizing targets easier.
The dual discriminators can be handy, but it doesn't take much longer to thumb a single discriminator to get information about the target's conductivity.
If you are going to spend much time with one of the big coils (3.6 x 18 clean sweep or the 12 x 10 DD) they make the Cibola feel very nose heavy but aren't bad at all on the Tejon.
To address amberjack's question; only one of the discriminators is active at a time. The Tejon runs on the first discriminator setting with the trigger switch in it's normal, centered, position. So in the example, first discriminator would be set so you hear the ring. Pushing the trigger forward activates the second discriminator. With the second discriminator set to discriminate out the ring, the detector does not beep on the ring with the trigger pushed forward. Then you can pull the trigger to pin point to size the target to see if you have a big loose wad of aluminum foil that is the same conductivity as the ring, or a small target that might be a ring.
tvr
Heck I live in N.E. Pa. and easily run my sensitivity at 9 or 10 with a stable unit so throw the noiser thing out the window using a Tejon...Practice your ground balancing as it will give your max. depth and stability...Might be better off with a Tesoro ID for your type of hunting but don't expect the same depth.... Vaquero is a nice unit and maybe less expensive but just doesn't have the
facets of a TeJon which make it a superior unit...
facets of a TeJon which make it a superior unit...
LittleJohn
Member
doesnt work the way you explained it.....disc works from the bottom up....not from the top down.
someone will be working on it i am sure?LittleJohn
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I think you are probably wanting more of a "notch" option. My Tesoro Golden uMax has a notch option, but I don't use it too often.
LittleJohn
LittleJohn
LittleJohn
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At the expense of hijacking this thread....I will say that I really, really, really like my Tesoro's. With my backup detector, I am going through the "learning phase" which I understand can take from 6 months to a couple of years...is that enjoyable? Not so much. Are my Tesoro's a lot of fun, and very accurate as well as deep and LIGHT? Sho nuff....