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Help Being Threatened at a Public Park

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I was at my local park here in Utah, I have hunted this park for years. The Park Superintendant says that he does not want people hunting in his park. Just because he doesn't like people who metal detect. There are no laws on the books, and there is nothing in the statutes about not detecting parks or public land, or BLM land. Basically he told me that it was his call whether or not people can detect in his park or not, and that he calls the police on people that detect. I told him to back off, Mr Gardner and that it was not his call. Am I right? Any help or information will be greatly appreciated. What do I need to do to protect our rights to detect in public parks?
Thanks Richard
 
Search for evidence occasionally. Just offering will get you on a first name basis with them and throw him a mean curve.
Sue him if you feel you have the time. It isn't his call to infringe on others rights unless he can financially back up this indiscretion.
You can also sit there when he calls the police and see what law it is you are breaking. Then sue the pants off of him and the park department. You could also find out if he detects there himself and just wants to guard his turf. You might be surprised. You could even set him up by having someone offer him a detector to borrow and make sure there's film in your camera.
My take... Guvner..
 
what governing body is in charge of the local parks. Then write them a letter asking for a letter of permission to hunt the parks, list the parks in your letter, and state that you would like them to send you a letter on offical office memo paper, with a seal or something, that you can carry with you to show people if there is ever a misunderstanding. If that doesn't work write a letter to the local paper stating your position as to the discrimination you feel you are being subjected to by that local government branch. Be shur that it is just before the local government elections.
 
I'd call his bluff but I would do it carrying a used radio Shack detector in my hand.
 
tell this guy to drop dead , also tell him as a taxpayer its is as much your park as his. he seems like he is up on his high horse taking his job a little to seriously. go to police dept and ask if there are any regulations on the books regarding metal detecting in the parks. ask them to foto stat you a copy.tell them you are thinking about forming a ther club in the area,. and of course you want to be a good citizen. AND OF COURSE YOU WANT TO BE LAW ABBIDING:::nent time you go there if this a--hole gives you crap WAVE THE DAMN COPY DOWN HIS THROAT
 
I'm not sure about BLM land because that is US government land and it is NOT legal to hunt on US government land without permission. My understanding is that the Super of a US park may or may not grant permission. It is the same here in Florida with state parks except that ocean beaches have a special exemption for us from the water's edge to the dunes. Basically, we are fighting the archeologists who want it all to themselves and have gotten laws and regulations passed to stop us from hunting.
If it is a city or county park I would go over the super's head to one of his superiors who might be more friendly to us detectorists and see if you can get something in writing giving you permission or get him to send a gentle nudge to that duper Super. HH Wally
 
richard , going to the administator of the park system sounds like the way to go. i would also inform him that any finds that would pertain to the history of your county are to be donated to the county museum. WORKS FOR ME AND I HAVE NEVER FOUND ANYTHING THAT THE MUSEUM WOULD WANT> but then cahnces of me giving something like that up are slim to not happening:::last year i went to a house in the center of my town here in sheboygan wisc.the house is about 240 years old i did get permission to hunt the front yard, from historical records i found out that they use to hang people in area where i was hunting. well from about 14 inches under i recovered shackles that they use to use to bring the prisioner out to be hung MUSEUM DID NOT WANT THEM BECAUSE THEY SAID IT WOULD SHOW HISTORY OF TOWNS CRUEL PAST. wthis building was actually the first jail in the town i live in probally the best find that i ever got did find a small handful of realy old coins also and the key was in the shackles
 
I had a tense situation a couple of weeks ago in a very public park that has been worked by detectors for years. I had just arrived at the site and was starting to set up when some joker came walking up and started asking what I'd found etc. The usual. Happens all the time. This time however, this jerk tells me he's with 'Brandywine Springs Park Preservation Group' and they don't allow detectors. So, I politely told him that the park was indeed public domain, there was no regulation or restrictions on detecting and that I had no intention of leaving until I was finished for the day. I then turned and walked away from him, put on the phones and started swinging. Much to my consternation, he followed me, right on my heels, talking his head off, and definitely invading my personal bubble. I am, generally, a very considerate person but this chap was definitely punching my buttons. I am not the largest man ever to walk to earth but at 6' 220 lbs, I'm far from the smallest and thanks to a checkered past, I'm afraid of no man and I will never cower or be intimidated by anyone. Period. So, I slowly took the phones off, placed the detector on the ground, looked this smuck in the eye and asked just how far he was willing to continue this BS because I wasn't going to leave and he was definitely going to get the hell away from me. Fortunately he backed off and shortly thereafter walked away. I didn't see him again. So, your run-in with the self important park-nazi turd hits a chord. Keep the faith and keep your rights!!
HH!
 
well steve i am not to big of a guy but i am 6' 245 lbs i did not stop hunting but hell he had 4 or 5 guys with him so i had to take a good look
and to all you guys you are the best i have gotten some very old locks and keys from this site and have gave them to the county museum here in Lehi Utah where i hunt this is a old town and my wifes mom and dad have bean here for 26 yrs i am some what new here 4 yrs is all and i am willing to go to jall if need be the more i site here the more mad i get but my wife is going it will be ok give it time we are going to have a talk to the man i no where his home is and see if we can work this out and if not cort time i do thank all of you for all your help i will be at the cop shop today getting this going
Good Luck
 
You can go detectin' with me anytime. We have all had those kind. Especially the ones that walk up from behind ya and make you leap like a frog. In my younger days we would have it out quickly. Last week had one old boy driving around in a pickup watching and watching. Finally surprises me(like they all do). And from what I could understand he was asking my business while I was secretly laughing at his 2 1/2 teeth that he had in his mouth from living off spam and cat food most of his life. Anyway to avoid any trouble I left an opted to come back at another time. Have fun out there guys because they aren't. HH wmike
 
Richard, I can see that you have already received a lot of input on your problem. Some of this input is good and some is. . . . well, not so good.
We had a problem at a local park here a couple of years ago when a park employee told a hunter that he had to leave. When I heard about it, I made an appointment with the City Manager and explained that the park had been hunted for 35 years. The Manager was astounded that one of the employees would take such an action. He called the Park Manager while I was sitting there and really lowered the boom on him. I had to just sit there and chuckle.
If you can't get any relief from the Park Manager, go over his head.
 
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