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Hello, new member and new to me Bandidi II Umax

Winmagbar

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Hello from Tulsa, Oklahoma,

I received my 1st and only detector (Bounty Hunter 1) in 1966 I think and I still have it. I never really got into detecting back ten but I recently bought my grandson a used Silver Umax and was amazed at it's capabilities. After a lot of research, I just picked up a Bandido II Umax in good condition off eBay sold by someone that seems to be well known on the forums (devilpookie) so I'm confident it's in good condition. It won't arrive for a few days but I've already downloded and read the manual. Any books or links you could direct me to regarding getting the most out of the Bandido would be appreciated. I'm hoping to spend a lot of time detecting with my grandson.

Thanks

Robert
 
Congrats on the new detector and for your grandson's!!!
The bandido II micromax is well regarded detector and to some, the best Tesoro ever made. I've gotten along very well with mine :).
Best of luck to you and your grandson!!!
 
Welcome to the forum..and your grandson too... Keep us posted about your guys adventures.
 
Will do. Thanks for the welcome. I belong to a deer lease by Ft. Smith Arkansas with several old homesteads in the woods. I'll be hitting those as soon as it warms up.

Robert
 
Bandido just arrived in mint condition with the exception of some slight wear on the coil (to be expected). Just went outside for a test and everything seems to be working great with good discrimination. The all metal hum did not seem very strong or consistent but it hit coins and hit hard in all metal without a hum. Am I doing something wrong in my all metal adjustments? Unit set to all metal, auto tune and ground balanced.

Thanks

Robert
 
Your threshold controls the hum.
Set him to audible, but not to loud. Ground balance in "auto" not "normal" It's all metal but self recovering. Normal doesn't auto retune like auto does.
 
Welcome From DESLOGE Mo. many great hunts with your grandson..
 
Winmagbar said:
Hello from Tulsa, Oklahoma,
I envy your mild ground down that way. I hunted there a bit back inn '88 and sure wish the ground I work here in Oregon or my travels to Utah, Nevada and other western states, was that mellow.


Winmagbar said:
I received my 1st and only detector (Bounty Hunter 1) in 1966 I think and I still have it. I never really got into detecting back ten but I recently bought my grandson a used Silver Umax and was amazed at it's capabilities.
Robert, I am sure most Tesoro followers who have read my pots, over the past twenty plus years of Forum posting probably know what I am about to tell you. So readers, bear with me as I fill Robert I n about these wonderful Tesoro models.

Jack Gifford at Tesoro used an electronic term or symbol ... µ ... when he renamed some of his newer models that used the small control housing. That symbol means 'micro' and was used to describe the detectors that used the 'micro' sized housing to be smaller, and also 'micro' sized electronic components in the circuitry that can provide MAXimum performance, and is pronounced '[size=small]micro[/size]MAX'. It us NOT an alphabet letter 'u' or 'U' and they are not pronounced 'YouMAX.' They are the Silver [size=small]micro[/size]MAX and Bandido II [size=small]micro[/size]MAX.

Okay, with that moment of education out of the way, I am certain you are going to really enjoy using these new-to-you Tesoro models. :thumbup: I have several all-time favorite Tesoro models, but only four in my current arsenal. A Bandido II [size=small]micro[/size]MAX, Silver Sabre [size=small]micro[/size]MAX, a Vaquero and Mojave. Both the Vaquero and Mojave are also making use of the same smaller-sized control housing, but thankfully they didn't include the µMAX term as part of their name.

How long has it been since you made use of that old BFO Bounty Hunter? It looks like you sure missed out on a lot of the 'productive years' in this great sport. It is very good news that you're going to have a detecting buddy with your grandson. How old is he? I have six kids and only two go detecting but not all that often, and about 16 grand kids but only three of them do any detecting. Hopefully this year might spark them to get out more often with their Dad and Grandpa.


Winmagbar said:
After a lot of research, I just picked up a Bandido II Umax in good condition off eBay sold by someone that seems to be well known on the forums (devilpookie) so I'm confident it's in good condition. It won't arrive for a few days but I've already downloded and read the manual. Any books or links you could direct me to regarding getting the most out of the Bandido would be appreciated. I'm hoping to spend a lot of time detecting with my grandson.
The Bandido II [size=small]micro[/size]MAX is perhaps my #1 all-time favorite Tesoro model, and the other three models I have are also top-performers.

You can read a lot about using your new detector here on Findmall's Beep and Dig Forum, and don't hesitate to send a direct e-mail to anyone if you have questions that concern you. I will share just a few reminders about using your units afield for improved success:

• On the Bandido II µMAX be sure to set a proper slight audio hum Threshold setting in the All Metal mode.

• Adjust the Ground Balance in All Metal so that it is 'spot-on' to just very slightly negative if you are mainly searching in the Discriminate mode.

• Use very little Discrimination so as not to reject smaller, low-conductive desired targets such as thin gold chains, small gold rings and pendants, etc. Both the models you have use what Tesoro calls the ED-120 Disc. circuitry. I always keep the Discrimination set at absolute minimum on mine because that will be just slightly above iron nail rejection and most iron trash will be Discriminated and you won't lose the smaller desired targets.

• Do NOT sweep too briskly. These circuitry designs are at-their-best when you use a slow and methodical sweep speed. This is especially true when searching in black sand, pea gravel, small rocks or any other challenging, highly mineralized site.

• If needed, consider an accessory coil or two that might help you better handle challenging conditions, such as dense brush or abundant debris.


Winmagbar said:
Bandido just arrived in mint condition with the exception of some slight wear on the coil (to be expected). Just went outside for a test and everything seems to be working great with good discrimination. The all metal hum did not seem very strong or consistent but it hit coins and hit hard in all metal without a hum. Am I doing something wrong in my all metal adjustments? Unit set to all metal, auto tune and ground balanced.
Ground Balance is simple to adjust:

1.. Toggle to the 'Auto' position for efficient, quick Auto-tune in the All Metal mode.

2.. Adjust for a slight audio 'hum' and not a loud sound. This is the slight audio you just barely hear that is the Threshold-level of sound. You will only hear that with the Bandido II [size=small]micro[/size]MAX in the All Metal mode and Pinpoint function. The Disc. modes are silent-search. However, their audio response is influenced or referenced off the Threshold setting and if you have it too low you might not hear weaker and/or deeper targets.

3.. Start adjusting the GB setting with the search coil held about 6" to 8" above the ground, in Auto tune All Metal mode with a Threshold audio hum. Then lower the search coil toward the ground, to about ½"-1" and listen for any change in the Threshold hum. Adjust the GB as needed, then toggle to Retune and release the toggle switch to restore the new adjustment and Threshold hum and lower the coil again. Do this until the Threshold audio stays the same as the coil is lowered towards the ground. If anything, you can adjust to a very slightly negative setting in the All Metal mode for better performance in the silent-search motion Disc. mode.

Set some goals to try and achieve in 2018 and get out as often as you can to enjoy this great sport.

Monte
 
Hi Monte,

Thanks for all the good tips. I'm 62 and yes, I did miss out on some good years. I think the last time I used my Bounty Hunter 1 was over 50 years ago. Luckily it was stored without batteries. My grandson is 12 and I'm getting ready to retire, so hopefully I will make up for lost time. I'm anxious to get out in the field. Can you recommend a good carry case for the Micromax?

Thanks

Robert
 
I think that by "productive" he meant the years when you could still find silver dimes in parks etc fairly easy. Not that you are old haha.

I am also located in tulsa.
 
My primary 'carry' method. Don't use bicycle, motorcycle or standard cab pick-up. Make sure you have a vehicle with a back seat. I can set one to five detectors on the back seat, depending upon their physical size and the search coils mounted. I then use a lightweight white-colored hospital blanket to cover them [size=small](except last October 8th)[/size] to keep them out-of-view and protect them from direct sunlight. That way any detector I have along for the ride, from one to a few, is ready to grab-and-hunt.

There was a time, long, long ago like about 1984 or so when I did use a full-length detector bag for my Tesoro Inca. That was back in the day when I was much younger (35) and most definitely more spry and my get-around ability let me make steep climbs up the face of some steep old Rocky Mountain trails to access old-use sites from the late 1800's. I shouldered my detector and recovery gear in the detector bag because I was also carrying a rifle for some hunting.

But, those are thirty-four year old fond memories of 'days-of-mobility.' Since then I haven't had a reason to break a detector down to properly fit in most detector bags which seemed to become awkward to have around. Most of the time a detector will not fit in a typical zippered detector bag unless you loosen the rod-lock, depress the snap-lock button, then rotate the rod 90° to have the search coil aligned with the bag's opening. Sometimes while rotated, you also have to shorten the rod length to get the detector's overall length to also fit in the bag. If using a smaller size coil that usually does the trick. However, with most 'standard' coils as well as most accessory coils, you might also have to loosen the coil mounting bolt and nut to 'flatten' the coil's angle to fit in the detector bag.

Then, upon reaching a hunt site, you have to re-adjust the coil angle, rod length and orientation, then secure the rod lock before you can start detecting. A waster of time, in my opinion, so I just set my detector/detectors comfortably on the back seat, cover them for protection, then pull one out and turn it on to start detecting right away. No messing around, and easy to get a detector around to several sites on a day-long outing without fitting into a bag all the time. Storage at home is also simple. I usually keep one or two detectors at-the-ready in my vehicle, or I take them in and hang it/them on the display hooks I have in my den.

No use, for me, for a cumbersome detector bag.

Monte
 
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