hello need some feed back on the C.$. PLEASE.

[C.J.M.]

just traded for a coinstrike with two coils need some tips,and settings for this beast.whats a good depth for this detector?any feedback will be appreciatethat you. cjm

 

[jabbo]

My soil is mild so I can set Threshold at 0 and Sensitivity at 9 or 10. If you have bad soil then set Threshold at minus 10 to minus 40, or as needed for your soil. All other settings on the menu are simple, like any other detector. In the menu, NO means Notch Out and at this point you can choose to Notch Out foil, tabs, etc listed on the right side of the screen, the blinking will change. SO (looks like 50) means Salt Out, used at the beach. You must go thru every setting in the menu and select a Memory to store the settings you made or you will not be able to exit that memory. You can ignore memories 1, 2, 3 and operate in memory 0 only. The most difficult thing about the C$ is choosing the best Threshold setting and knowing how to completely set up the memory. I operate in memory 0 with Thresold at 0. I keep changing the Sensitivity as needed then I press PinPoint button to resume searching. Poster MarkCZ is the guy who knows a lot about the C$, not sure if he will agree with me about the info I'm giving you.

 

[-=john=-LexKy]

I have just refreshed the Coinstrike Homepage to fix a lot of the dead links. I intend to go through it more
and get them all out. Y'all take a look and let me know what needs repair.

I am going to add in sections regarding the 5" coil and Sunray probe soon.

Hopefully I can find a copy of the W E field test that used to be on the Fisher site 9 years ago and add that back.

I will say at the 9 year mark with heavy use my unit is still working to spec and that says a lot for something
made this delicate and not weatherproofed. The control box should have the dirt blown out of it now and then and the coils
should be good for life except if the spring a leak where the wire strain relief is.

hh

-=john=-


just search : Coinstrike

 

[Mike Hillis]

I still have a lot of CS information if you need it. Field tests, tips, etc, Most all of it Bill Ladd's.
HH
Mike

 

[MarkCZ]

My soil is mild so I can set Threshold at 0 and Sensitivity at 9 or 10. If you have bad soil then set Threshold at minus 10 to minus 40, or as needed for your soil. All other settings on the menu are simple, like any other detector. In the menu, NO means Notch Out and at this point you can choose to Notch Out foil, tabs, etc listed on the right side of the screen, the blinking will change. SO (looks like 50) means Salt Out, used at the beach. You must go thru every setting in the menu and select a Memory to store the settings you made or you will not be able to exit that memory. You can ignore memories 1, 2, 3 and operate in memory 0 only. The most difficult thing about the C$ is choosing the best Threshold setting and knowing how to completely set up the memory. I operate in memory 0 with Thresold at 0. I keep changing the Sensitivity as needed then I press PinPoint button to resume searching. Poster MarkCZ is the guy who knows a lot about the C$, not sure if he will agree with me about the info I'm giving you.

jabbo, remember that memory bank (0) has no use for the user! The detector uses it for its own "return to last used settings"
That means that if I hunt an area today and make some necessary adjustments, get done hunting, turn the detector off and come back tomorrow to hunt, when I turn the detector back on it starts back up from what it self-stored in bank (0) (except for ground balance and salt mode on (S1) The detector ALWAYS defaults at power up with the salt mode off (S0)
Where I live and the areas I normally hunt I can just use the last running settings. Most of the changes I make are only to tweak the threshold and sensitivity due to changing EMI problems. That is to say I can run hotter settings early in the morning, but by mid day the detector may start to get more unstable and require minor adjustments.

When the displays shows (S0) that means salt mode is OFF!
When the displays shows (S1) then salt mode is on!
When the Display shows ("no" short for notch) it means that the notch settings can be made, either to notch an item in or to notch an item out. Or to say with (no) on the display the detector is in notch setting mode.

Mark

 

[C.J.M.]

n/t

 

[jabbo]

n/t

 

[E Cav]

Just a note. If you press the light and the auto gnd at the same time the C$ will give you a ground condition reading.

 

[jabbo]

E CAV, thanks for the tip about ground condition reading. I didn't see that anywhere in the manual. I tried it today in the field, it gave me a ground reading. This feature isn't explained in the manual and I didn't know how I could use the info for my benefit. Really neat, sure would like to know more about it.

 

[MarkCZ]

E CAV, thanks for the tip about ground condition reading. I didn't see that anywhere in the manual. I tried it today in the field, it gave me a ground reading. This feature isn't explained in the manual and I didn't know how I could use the info for my benefit. Really neat, sure would like to know more about it.

I think this new found feature is really hidden or disabled so I don't think it gives the user any (or much) usable information by only having a temporary on state.
When the Coinstrike came out it looks like there was a split in the product line, CZ70 seems to have ended and then came the,
Coinstrike and the
Gold Strike
The two detectors are basically the same unit,
Same control housing,
Same display,
different frequencies,
Different coils.

The thing about the ground condition reading is that its a full time function on the Gold Strike! (see picture below)
Now, why did they disable it on the C$??

And I bet if you removed the the notch label on right of the display you might find that little lighting bolt! (I don't think the lighting bolt is a decal)
The notch feature is not on the Gold Strike and the Ground Condition feature is disabled (or hidden) on the C$. I'm thinking that it was an attempt to put as much separation of the two models as they could without two different designs (marketing)
Yea, speculation I know, but to better understand some of the operations of the C$ the Gold Strike manual is better written, especially the "Threshold".

Mark

 

[jabbo]

Mark, everything you say about the Ground Condition scale makes sense to me. GoldStrike and C$ most likely use the same circuit board and the Ground Condition scale is temporarily displayed in that empty spot on the meter. On the GoldStrike, that same spot has a Ground Condition scale displayed at all times. Thanks, Jabbo

 

[E Cav]

The circuit boards are completely different . the only thing that is the same is the case and they display.

 

[MarkCZ]

The circuit boards are completely different . the only thing that is the same is the case and they display.

Have you had both apart, or did you come across this info somewhere else?
All controls are the same,
Display have the same Icons and layout,
Manual's are pretty the same,
They split off the production line at pretty much the same time,
Other than frequency change and knocking out the notch option on the Gold Strike every other aspect is the same (well coil also)

And I know at that time First Texas was working to shave production cost! and looking for ways to gain revenue from the Fisher units that they inherited. So in a marketing approach if a company can take one unit and turn it into two models without the cost of re-engineering and redesigning a whole new separate model then it makes sense to do so!

Now, they may have different boards in them, but for me to be convinced of that I would have to see the difference in both. They are to just alike, at the same time, for me to believe they are two completely different beast!
It would be to easy to only have to change the frequency and one display option on each to pull this double hitter off.

From what I can tell buy watching the Fisher used detector market I don't think the Gold Strike went over very well either, maybe not as well as the coinstrike did. In the past couple of years I have only seen one Gold Strike for sell and that didn't get any takers.

Mark

 

[E Cav]

I worked for Fisher here in Los Banos. I have worked on both the C$ and Goldstrike. I know the enginer that desighn both units. His patient did not go to Texas when Fisher was sold ,so production was stopped .

The Goldstrike ground icon is not is not active in auto ground tracking. Its only for setting manual ground adjustment if needed.

The Goldstrikes upper center icon dose not give -and+ phase angle numbers as the C$, it only gives -and+ with depth reading.

If you saw a schematic of both it would be clear how different thay are.

The ground condition test was to aid QC in testing of auto track.