Hearing a target while "Nulled"

[Anonymous]

If I go over a target with the coil while it is nulled from rejecting say a crowncap, will I hear that target? I was hunting a spot the other day that was LOADED with all kinds of trash. I was in IM-16, Ferrous sounds, stock coil and it was overwelming and I couldnt tell what was what. Any suggestions? Again, will I miss targets because of the nulls or should I discriminate in that much junk? I am trying to get used to hearing everything( IM-16) But this spot was unreal, but I know there are coins there!! <img src="/metal/html/confused.gif" border=0 width=15 height=22 alt=":?"> Thanks all..Chris

 

[Anonymous]

I cannot hunt in all metal while say in a fair grounds area.Way too much junk. Today I went there and have a saved program with the top right opened from the middle of the screen over to the right,and middway up about where screw caps come in around 20 on digital.I had it a bit higher and almost missed an Indian head that read 21 on digital which I have always seen Indians at 24 to 26 and was amazed this one was 21, so I lowered the open screen.I also have nickels open and used the learn to get nickels open using the medium square cause nickles can come in anywhere from 4 to 6 on digital and I am sure there will be a few that will be diff. So anyway I ended up finding 2 Buffalo nickles and dug lots of beaver tails and pulled out 2 Indians and a few screw caps so I think that is a good day considering the amount of junk. If the target is there you should hear it.If I have any question about sounds I can flip to Iron mask -16 and analyse it better but I seem to be digging nails when I do that..I did hear a lot of short sounds trying to sound good but they were not consistent so it was just something close to the null line wanting to be good...you will find coins and any copper or silver jewlery and maybe big gold things but will miss the small gold so I figure it beats getting a headache from all the sounds at one time. You will cover more ground by doing this and not waste much time listening to iron edges sounding sweet.

 

[Anonymous]

I forgot to mention all the targets I am finding are shallow so I can lower sensativity to 10-14 which helps me from picking up too many signals at one time and also I use the smaller 7.5 inch ML coil which helps in trashy areas.Keep the sensativity as low as you can to seperate better and make sure you don't go too low cause you will miss things...you can usually find stuff and get the average depth of finds for that area and go from there.

 

[Anonymous]

1 dime, 3 lincoln memorials, 1 wheat,2 buffalo nickels,2 Indians, I tossed an extra indian in from the day before.The Cut nail was too iffy and sounded good so it was dug from curiousity and not from being consistant sound.

 

[Anonymous]

My experience in testing the Explorer is that in IM-16 you will have the chance to pick up goodies in among the junk. If you start to discriminate, the goodies that are close to the junk will start to get nulled out right along with the junk. If you want to have a shot at everything you have to run with as little discrimination as possible and use a smaller coil size than stock. You have to sweep an area from multiple angles. Running in Ferous sounds will also help, except that rusty bottlecaps will sound good enough that you will dig some. The good stuff when by the iron junk will have the signal affected by it, both in sound and in reading, so you have to listen for that high tone in among the lower iron tones, it won't be the "classic" ring usually but it will be different enough that you will investigate.

 

[Anonymous]

I have a spot near me that is loaded with diintegrating crowncaps (a few per sweep) that are masking modern silver and wheats. At this site, I currently use the conductive mode, IM -14, and do not discriminate out crowncaps. Many coins masked by a crowncap will make a "blooop" tone, just rising halfways between the crowncap area and coin. Many times I will not get a high pitched coin tone. It took me a few hours of practice digging to figure out what's a coin and what's not.
I'm not a big ferrous mode user but I suspect the sounds are similar to coins masked by iron in the ferrous mode. Ferrous would be tough in a crowncap field because everything would sound about the same.
Since crowncaps are the big problem at the site, I've been thinking of discriminating out everything extcept the extreme right hand side of the screen, so I only focus on those coins masked by crowncaps. Whatever I do, I will not disc out the caps because I hate hearing choppy coin hits.

 

[Anonymous]

Damned if you do..Damned if you dont..Thanks for the Info Guys..I was using ferrous and IM-16, but it was way too confusing..I mean this place is loaded with trash..i am going to try dropping to -15 and see if it helps. I only have the stock coil and am thinking about a smaller one but dont know if I should get the 5" or the 8". Tommorow i am going to a less trashy wooded area that has produced a couple Barber dimes and IH's. Hope I get lucky again..HH all, and thanks for the replys...Chris NY

 

[Jim upstate NY]

you can do a simple disc pattern that wont miss much of anything good, just go to the select screen, clear all, then just X out nails and crown caps.... If the majority of the trash is non ferrous its not that important to be running iron mask -16.. Matter of fact if theres little iron you can get away with a much higher iron mask setting