....than my stock Explorer XS headphones. I made the decision to try them instead of the GG's because of iffy messages regarding the volume level of the Gray Ghosts and partially because of the messages you posted stating the Timberwolfs were louder on your Sovereign. So I figured, why not on the Explorer, too? So thanks, Rick!!! I was also swayed by other factors, like the message stating it would take 4 to 6 trips to get used to the new sound of the GG's. I was also influenced because none of the Gray Ghost dealers that I contacted would let me try out a pair with an option to return if I found the sound level unsatisfactory, but a Timberwolf dealer jumped at it. After passing a half dozen coins and rings across the coil, I called and told him "You keep my money, and I'll keep your headphones." Now, after using them a half dozen times in the field, I find I have to turn down the volume [who woulda thunk it?] because I start getting a headache after an hour or so of targets blasting my eardrums. While the threshold is only about 10-20% louder, targets are something else (especially the higher frequencies, but the low ones, too) and really scream out at you. I know it's hard to make a decison, was for me anyway, to spend so much money for something you may or may not like, so anyone in the Washington DC area that wants to come down and compare the stock and Timberwolves on my machine, or bring along your own Explorer for comparison, is welcome.