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Has anyone heard from David Keith?

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gcollins

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I know David went on vacation, he also was having troubles with kidney stones! I was wondering if anyone had heard from him?
Thanks
Greg Collins
 
Greg,

I MD'ed with a buddy that stays in touch pretty well with David.... d-2 from this forum... and he said that David was Fishing down in the Gulf. I didn't know anything about the kidney stones though.

Take care,

Kim
 
He's back home now. I talked to him last night and his kidney stones were gone. Last I heard he was gonna show us all a picture of some the fish they caught. I understood his better half won the pot on the boat. SHe caught more fish than anybody...d2
 
two weeks ago at 5:45am I awoke to the introduction of severe pain. I rolled and squirmed around until my Dr opened (8am) and went straight to his office. He suspected (as I had by then) it was possibly a Kidney stone.He made a quick call to a Urologist in Nashville and off we went (the wife drove). We didn't get half mile when I decided there was no way I'd make it the 10 miles to Nashville. We detoured straight to the local emergency room where I was quickly examined and given 3 shots; two for extreme pain and one for nausea (I hurt so bad I was dry heaving). By the time we made it to St Thomas hospital in Nashville, I no longer cared who won the Civil War. I was a happy camper and friends with everyone. (now if only I could bottle that feeling into an elixir; I'd have a new career). After 3 X-rays it was determined that I in fact had either a Kidney stone or a 3-4m/m Comet lodged in the tube leading from my Kidney to the bladder. The Dr felt it might pass on its own but wanted me back in 2 weeks. We were leaving in two days for our vacation so he gave me a prescription for pain. Fortunately, I made it through our vacation and back home with no further problems. I went back to see the Dr two days ago and more X-rays shows it is still in the same place. He's giving me two weeks to pass it or face procedures that only henchmen from the Spanish Inquisitions could imagine. I tremble at the mere thought of it. I'm thinking of taking up sky diving while under the influence of a case of beer; hoping this might jar the evil object to dislodge, but jumping out of a perfectly good airplane goes against my better judgement. So I will pass the time with fingers crossed and extra prayers (any of you wishing to send prayers my way will greatly be appreciated and excepted gladly). They say passing a Kidney stone ranks up there with child birth; I say it's called a woman's ultimate revenge on we men. Good hunting and drink lots of water...lots. David
 
Both the stones and the jumping from perfectly good airplanes... :lol: If it passes on it's own, it will most likely be with additional great pain and hopefully it does not get lodged in your ureter and create a urine blockage....That is SEVERE pain and a medical emergency.

Again...hopefully it is not the stone type known as a "Staghorn"...which is shaped like a burr and constantly gets re-stuck after each small movement through the system. I hope you elected for a "Basket Extraction" rather than lipotripsy(Sp) Lipotripsy sometimes blasts the stone into fine sand and it all comes out at once or it fractures the stone and creates numerous stones which take turns coming out after about a week or two and some pieces get stuck for several hours. With a basket extraction, they insert the 'grabber' and pull the complete stone out in one piece. After a day of maybe some rebound pain which is not near as bad as the stone....you are 100% ready to go!!

I have had numerous stones, a couple being staghorns, one urine blockage, two lipotripsy's and two basket extractions. One basket extraction at Ft Benning was done while I was AWAKE during the procedure. Felt like I had my own major Jihaad going on in my groin and belly. But, you would surely have anesthesia and it is the best way to go if ya just gotta have a stone removed.

One bit of bad information for you that my doctor told me back in 1977....Once you have one stone, it means your system is not getting rid of calcium and minerals efficiently and You will have more of them. He hit that nail on the head :lol: I am way overdue for another. Good luck David....it will pass
 
Best wishes for success in getting rid of the stone, David. Had a friend with it and believe he went with the Basket Extractrion, and though it wasn't the highlight of his life, he came through it without a lot of major discomfort.

You'll be fine in no time again.:thumbup:
 
I had em 6 times, 5 times they used the roto rooter thingie, last year the new laser thingie, sure feels good when it quits hurtin, but LORDY, sure puts a guy down , glad yer doin better:twodetecting::super:
 
Sometimes the stone will pass on its own without too much pain. You will begin to be able to track its progress. Once you start feeling little spasms from your lower back that radiate to the end of your you know what...it is probably in one of your ureters and is wanting to get out. Like you said...keep drinking plenty of water to keep your pressure up to be able to blast it out of there when the time comes. Some stones come out reasonably easy, I hope yours is one of them.
 
Hi my friend, those stones are no fun, I am lucky that mine are to big to move or pass and are not blocking any ducts, and the last 4-5 years they havn't given me any problems (knock on wood), i hope that every thing comes out allright! No pun intended!!!
See Ya
Greg Collins
 
David,

Wishing you the best! Had a friend tell me one time that it was like trying to pass a cocklebur !!! Ouch!!

Good luck,

Kim
 
I hope you pass it easy... otherwise...

It's not going to be fun either way. I had a small one once and felt like I had to take a crap for hours, I couldn't figure out what it was.
I have a friend who has them like you do and he will occasionally crawl into an emergency room.
Mojo to you...

J
 
David, I'm posting the following kidney-stone info in the hope it will be helpful to you or any other reader who prefers to avoid getting a kidney-stone.

In most cases, kidney-stones aren't caused from a disease, but rather from what we choose to eat and drink.

I had several very painful kidney-stone episodes between 1981 and 1997 - but none since then ...because I changed what I eat and drink.

The stones (which are actually mineral CRYSTALS) form in the kidney when your urine is so "super-saturated" with a particular mineral that crystals "precipitate" from it inside your kidney. Some oldtimers here may remember the ancient recipe for making Rock-Candy. The molecular principle involved is the same in kidney-stone formation.

The majority of kidney stones are composed of the mineral Calcium Oxalate (an isotope which is chemically different from "plain" Calcium). In the past, we stone-sufferers were advised to strictly avoid calcium-rich foods and beverages. New science has determined that calcium actually helps PREVENT the formation of Calcium Oxalate crystals in the body. Therefore, instead of avoiding milk and cheese, etc, what we should avoid are foods and beverages that are rich in Calcium OXALATE. (Such as nuts, chocolate, strawberries, and carbonated cola drinks.

But the most important key of all is to keep your urine "diluted" by drinking plenty of plain water! Sorry to say this, but tea, coffee, gatorade, etc, do not count as WATER. ;-) Drinking a significant amount of water each day prevents minerals from crystallizing inside your kidney.

As someone else noted in this thread, the pain from kidney-stones is super-extreme. Worse, there's no letup ...it doesn't stop for even a couple of minutes. It is relentlessly continual for hours ...or days. Little ol' 129-pound me was in enough agony that I bent the the metal rails beside my emergency-room bed. This gave me sufficient motivation to be sure to drink enough water each day to keep even one more kidney-stone from happening for the rest of my life!

In closing...
There's no need to pay $2 a bottle for Evian or Polar Springs water. WalMart sells GALLON jugs of distilled water (the very purest water in existence) for only 64 cents a gallon. I drink a couple of glassfuls of it every day ...since 1997 ...and I've had no kidney-stones since then.

Regards,
TheCannonballGuy
 
Excellent post CB Guy! I went through that original "change your diet" and do not eat cheese,etc and do not drink much milk. Then my next stone, like you said, all that advice had changed. In fact, the doc also told me that if you avoid calcium all together, your system will take calcium from your bone marrow leading to other health problems and not do anything which would actually prevent stones. I'm sure I drink close to a gallon of water per day. And since being on good old NC well water from a bored well through almost entirely sand and avoiding foods you mention...I have not had a stone in a long time (Knock on wood)
 
Glad to hear that, Mike. :) And thank you for publicly adding confirmation to what I said. I sure hope the info from our experiences will help somebody else avoid getting a kidney-stone.

Regards,
TheCannonballGuy [PCGeorge]
 
Hang in there David, it's painful, Maybe you'll pass it, that's still painful but you don't have to get choped,
Harold in Fla.
 
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