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My wife and I went to two revolution battle fields today. Cowpens battle field and Kings Moutntain. Hope to go back to see more. Took pictures at Cowpens but didn't at Kings Mountain. Lose room , took wrong stick 
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It was fun learning about this place. But I was on the good side
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were Washington Cavalry was lined up on Cowpens battle field.
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...of the Old North Church, Bunker Hill, Concord Bridge, Boston Commons, Paul Revere etc. became the focal points of US history. While significant, they were they played only a part in the overall scheme of the War...and our history.
Up until the Southern "Reconstruction" EVERY American child (from Florida to Maine to the Ohio Valley) knew all about the great Southern leaders Green, Murray, Marion, the Swamp Fox, Campbell, Sevier, Shelby, McDowell, Williams and Cleveland as well as they knew Washington. And place names like Charlestown, Sullivan's Island, Fort Moultrie, Brier's Creek, Hobkirk's Hill, the Siege of Savannah and other places of conflict to include the huge victories at Cowpens and the "Battle of Gettysburg" for the Revolution...King's Mountain - THE TURNING POINT of the War.
South Carolina Battles of the Revolution - Wins & Losses
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Even the evils of Saddam Hussein today would only compare equally to the incredible attrocities suffered by the people of Northern Georgia, South Carolina and western North Carolina; attrocities that the people of New England were mostly spared - in comparison.
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Unfortunately, the South was on the losing end of the Civil War only 80 years later and part of their punishment for losing was to give up their role in American History. It was a great price to pay, I think, for all Americans. But the victors shall always write the history.
[attachment 21807 RevolutionarySC.jpg]
Imagine all our surprise when a movie called The Patriot (starring Mel Gibson) was made! While definitely "Hollywood" historically, it was still interesting to have the south even mentioned from the 18th century, much less portrayed in a positive light. Perhaps, in time, more of the importance and even greatness of the South (beyond Deliverance related jokes) may become, once again, better known to all American children.
The Swamp Fox - A VERY Brief History
At about the time Benedict Arnold was negotiating a deal to harm the American cause in the North, British victories were demoralizing the entire South. Momentum in favor of the Patriots had gone downhill since their decisive win at Sullivan's Island early in the war (1776). Even huge American successes (like the battle of Saratoga where General Burgoyne and his Redcoats were routed and European powers - like France - began to believe it was smart to support the colonies) did not change the British belief that they could still hold the South.
To make matters worse, southern families were deepely divided. Loyalist fathers were pitted against patriot sons while brothers and cousins fought against each other. Charleston, once the fourth largest (and richest) city of the colonies was besieged and fell to the British in May 1780. These conditions presaged an even greater conflict to come in the next century.
Within months, South Carolina was the scene of even more American disasters: Waxhaws; Camden; Fishing Creek. By the end of the summer, well...there wasn't much of a Continental Army left in South Carolina.
But, just as soon as the British and their young victorious general, Banastre Tarleton, were confident they would hold their southern prize, a South Carolina patriot came forth into our history and forever changed the momentum of war in the South and for the fledgling United States. Francis Marion and his troop of a mere 150 men ("Marion's Brigade") would soon - despite all odds against them - literally chase the Redcoats out of South Carolina with their tails between their legs, thus setting up the final British defeat at Yorktown.
[attachment 21810 FrancisMarionlg.jpg]
Not bothered by his lack of men and supplies, Marion brilliantly used a weapon completely unknown to the British: the swamps, waterways and marshes of the South Carolina low country. Employing guerilla tactics to harass the enemy, targeting British officers with accurate fire and destroying supply trains, Marion and his men would strike without warning...suddenly, unexpectedly and viciously...and then disappear into the swamps.
Tarleton, who was previously greatly feared by Southerners for his brutal and bloody attacks on civilians and the public executions of all thought to be involved in supporting the Patriots (including women, children and whole families), was now completely exasperated when his communications were interrupted, his supply lines were cut off and his hold on the south slipped away from his grasp. He became utterly powerless to stop the constant unconventional attacks by the South Carolina Patriots.
The British soldiers came to tremble when Marion's name is mentioned. The Redcoats could never capture Francis Marion. He and his men were never defeated. Tarleton called him the "Swamp Fox." (In the movie, The Patriot, he's called Benjamin Martin and played by Mel Gibson.)
By the time Marion and his men forced a Redcoat retreat to a battleground called Cowpens, near the North Carolina border, ultimate victory was within the patriots' grasp.
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Up until the Southern "Reconstruction" EVERY American child (from Florida to Maine to the Ohio Valley) knew all about the great Southern leaders Green, Murray, Marion, the Swamp Fox, Campbell, Sevier, Shelby, McDowell, Williams and Cleveland as well as they knew Washington. And place names like Charlestown, Sullivan's Island, Fort Moultrie, Brier's Creek, Hobkirk's Hill, the Siege of Savannah and other places of conflict to include the huge victories at Cowpens and the "Battle of Gettysburg" for the Revolution...King's Mountain - THE TURNING POINT of the War.
South Carolina Battles of the Revolution - Wins & Losses
[attachment 21806 Rev20War20Map.jpg]
Even the evils of Saddam Hussein today would only compare equally to the incredible attrocities suffered by the people of Northern Georgia, South Carolina and western North Carolina; attrocities that the people of New England were mostly spared - in comparison.
[attachment 21808 patriot_003.jpg]
Unfortunately, the South was on the losing end of the Civil War only 80 years later and part of their punishment for losing was to give up their role in American History. It was a great price to pay, I think, for all Americans. But the victors shall always write the history.
[attachment 21807 RevolutionarySC.jpg]
Imagine all our surprise when a movie called The Patriot (starring Mel Gibson) was made! While definitely "Hollywood" historically, it was still interesting to have the south even mentioned from the 18th century, much less portrayed in a positive light. Perhaps, in time, more of the importance and even greatness of the South (beyond Deliverance related jokes) may become, once again, better known to all American children.
The Swamp Fox - A VERY Brief History
At about the time Benedict Arnold was negotiating a deal to harm the American cause in the North, British victories were demoralizing the entire South. Momentum in favor of the Patriots had gone downhill since their decisive win at Sullivan's Island early in the war (1776). Even huge American successes (like the battle of Saratoga where General Burgoyne and his Redcoats were routed and European powers - like France - began to believe it was smart to support the colonies) did not change the British belief that they could still hold the South.
To make matters worse, southern families were deepely divided. Loyalist fathers were pitted against patriot sons while brothers and cousins fought against each other. Charleston, once the fourth largest (and richest) city of the colonies was besieged and fell to the British in May 1780. These conditions presaged an even greater conflict to come in the next century.
Within months, South Carolina was the scene of even more American disasters: Waxhaws; Camden; Fishing Creek. By the end of the summer, well...there wasn't much of a Continental Army left in South Carolina.
But, just as soon as the British and their young victorious general, Banastre Tarleton, were confident they would hold their southern prize, a South Carolina patriot came forth into our history and forever changed the momentum of war in the South and for the fledgling United States. Francis Marion and his troop of a mere 150 men ("Marion's Brigade") would soon - despite all odds against them - literally chase the Redcoats out of South Carolina with their tails between their legs, thus setting up the final British defeat at Yorktown.
[attachment 21810 FrancisMarionlg.jpg]
Not bothered by his lack of men and supplies, Marion brilliantly used a weapon completely unknown to the British: the swamps, waterways and marshes of the South Carolina low country. Employing guerilla tactics to harass the enemy, targeting British officers with accurate fire and destroying supply trains, Marion and his men would strike without warning...suddenly, unexpectedly and viciously...and then disappear into the swamps.
Tarleton, who was previously greatly feared by Southerners for his brutal and bloody attacks on civilians and the public executions of all thought to be involved in supporting the Patriots (including women, children and whole families), was now completely exasperated when his communications were interrupted, his supply lines were cut off and his hold on the south slipped away from his grasp. He became utterly powerless to stop the constant unconventional attacks by the South Carolina Patriots.
The British soldiers came to tremble when Marion's name is mentioned. The Redcoats could never capture Francis Marion. He and his men were never defeated. Tarleton called him the "Swamp Fox." (In the movie, The Patriot, he's called Benjamin Martin and played by Mel Gibson.)
By the time Marion and his men forced a Redcoat retreat to a battleground called Cowpens, near the North Carolina border, ultimate victory was within the patriots' grasp.
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Just in my immediate vicinity we had the Battle of Brandywine, Germantown, the Battle above the Clouds, the Paoli Massacre, the loss of Fort Miflin and the battle of Whitemarsh which were all wins for the British. The battle of Monmouth was a toss up. The only one in the win column was Trenton.
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I know they fell alittle bit differant about it then we do. He was ok. He told me they catch about 7 to 10 a year tring to get on the battle fields and around it a year .
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don't mess with her, you will be sorry !!!!!!! :veryangry: