GT All Metal VS Excalibur AM

[labeachbum]

Everyone states The GT and Excalibur are The same Except for the water proofing, But The GT Requires A Ground Balance for AM......... But The Excalibur Requires no GB, and to make things more confusing most Manufacturers state in there manuals not to hunt in Pinpoint as there's no tracking.................... So Hunting in Pinpoint for long periods of time is OK with The Excalibur II.

 

[kered]

Not quite correct, the excalibur is almost the same as the Sovereign, not the gt in particular, previos sovs didn't have the selectable ground tracking and they work fine, i think maybe they all do it in one way or another only the GT you can switch it off

 

[JOHNMARKHAM]

you can use the excalibur 2 in am mode all day long..it works great....

 

[BootyHunter]

Hunting in Pinpoint mode gets you a little more depth and you don't have to keep switching back and forth to check out a signal. The machine will null if its iron and you dont have to bother with it. CJC book is where I got this tip and I know it works from experience. Shortly after reading his book I was at the beach hunting and flipped it to "Pinpoint" to hunt, got a few signals and checked them in regular mode, one in particular would not sound off except in Pinpoint mode, after taking a scoop or two of sand, it started sounding off in regular mode. I have hunted in Pinpoint mode ever since, CJC calls it "Reverse Hunting". His books are great and this one single tip has helped me immensly, saving me time and effort. If you don't have his books, do yourself a favor and get them. Good Luck and HH.

 

[labeachbum]

That clears up the confusion...............will buy CJC's book............... Thanks all

 

[chuck ky]

i may be mis-reading your post. if you're hunting it pinpoint you would be in all-metal and the iron should give z signal instead of a null.

 

[kered]

i may be mis-reading your post. if you're hunting it pinpoint you would be in all-metal and the iron should give z signal instead of a null.

I've had luls in the signal in all metal but never a null

 

[Art (NWOH)]

My 2a will null on some of the strange stuff in either mode. I think the confused conductivity patterns of some things may cause threshold wierdness.
Have seen it with both rocks and a junk tennis bracelet. Must be throwing the BBS out of wack.

HH

 

[jbow]

I think what he is doing is reverse hunting. Search in pinpoint AM, then switch to disc to see if you get a null or a tone, even a lower tone in disc means there is a non-ferrous target that you may have passed over if you had been hunting in disc. Pinpoint AM is faster and deeper and more likely to catch that deepie that disc may not hear unless you know it it there and wiggle over it. I have some deep coins in and old test plot that I can only hear because I know that they are there and I can wiggle in a rising tone.

J

 

[jbow]

He has two books, be sure to order the one you want.

J

 

[Critterhunter]

I know this has been discussed before but from the looks of it pinpoint on my GT is not as deep as discriminate. Sometimes I can find a good solid deep target in discriminate that I can't even hear in pinpoint. Maybe it differs on other Sovereigns, or the little extra depth the GT is said to be getting than previous models in discriminate puts it beyond how deep pinpoint can go.

I do wonder if all metal (non-pinpoint) mode with ground balancing might get a bit deeper than discriminate because pinpoint doesn't use any ground balance. I'd probably put it in fixed so that tracking doesn't smooth over a deep target. It might very well go deeper than discriminate and you could still switch back to that to check it. From what I've read on this a deep target might only change the threshold tone and not sound off. You can tell by the threshold's tone what the target's conductivity would be still. But, I had read that really deep targets at the very fringe won't even change the threshold or may null like iron when they are in fact coins or other non-ferous targets.

 

[BootyHunter]

I think what he is doing is reverse hunting. Search in pinpoint AM, then switch to disc to see if you get a null or a tone, even a lower tone in disc means there is a non-ferrous target that you may have passed over if you had been hunting in disc. Pinpoint AM is faster and deeper and more likely to catch that deepie that disc may not hear unless you know it it there and wiggle over it. I have some deep coins in and old test plot that I can only hear because I know that they are there and I can wiggle in a rising tone.

J

Yes that is what I meant to say. I didn't get my message across the way I thought it in my head. It will give a tone in all metal, then I check it in Disc. Some very broken signals I dont bother to even check in Disc because they are almost always bottle caps or big junk. Thanks for clearing up what I meant to say, hope I didnt cause the original poster too much confusion. Anyway I am a big believer in the reverse hunting method. Look on youtube for some of Oldbeechnut posts and he describes and demonstrates it perfectly and you will see examples where there was no sound in Disc but a signal in AM that turned out to be a coin or ring. Thanks BootyHunter