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Ground Tracking No Double beep

daddyflea

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I tried to save the program I have been using for a while and had no luck. I restored my stock Coins program and started from scratch. I created Coins Customized.

I am trying Correlate mode and found that by holding a Zinc Penny and a Nickle side by side in my hand I could get either to hit hard by themselves but both together I could not get to hit. I tried spreading them as far as possible in my hand but I could not get that intended double beep. I went in under Ground Tracking and adjusted to the Max both ways and could not get the double beep. I also tried Best data as well as Intensity. No luck.

What should I adjust to get a quick Tesoro double beep?
 
Ground tracking would have no affect. Recovery delay is what determines how close objects can be detected.

RECOVERY DELAY
Once the recovery delay cycle is started by encountering a target, the V3i will give a certain recovery time" to the process. It doesn’t matter how many targets are in the ground. You decide how many time units the V3i has by how high or low you set the recovery delay. If you give V 100 R/D time units it must use every one. If your detector passes over one target, you must use 100% of the time units before the V3i can process another target. This would be for all targets regardless of being a higher or lower conductor target. If the new target/signal goes above the signal threshold of the older target/signal, then the new one will respond before the old signal is finished and returns to threshold. The down side is when the new signal is weaker than the one being processed it will not be heard until the recovery delay is finished.
A shorter R/D should work better at a site that is more cluttered. Remember the R/D is how long the V3i has to process the first target, and then be ready to process a second target. Lower R/D numbers gives a SHORTER delay and higher R/D numbers give a LONGER delay. Faster recovery doesn’t make the detector go less deep; it's just harder to hear the deep signals as the R/D is shorter.
For a fixed sweep speed, Recovery Delay should INCREASE as coil size increases, to accommodate the longer time on top of the target. Ground Filter speed should DECREASE to accommodate the apparent slow-down in physical sweep speed.

You don’t have to remember at this. Put two targets down, just a little more than a coil width apart and swing at your speed. As you swing, adjust RD until you can hear both targets in both directions. This tells you that as soon as the leading edge of the coil field hits the first target, RD started, and the RD cycle ended and the machine was ready to process before the leading edge of the coil pattern hit the second target.

The RECOVERY DELAY is for the disc mode only. Just for comparison, RD 40-45 emulates DFX target processing and 35 - 40 emulates the MXT RD. Higher Delay numbers make the chirps from nails harder to tell from desirable targets. With deeper coins or targets in the ground it is easier to hear the target with higher numbers as it will make for a longer sound.

Recovery Delay I usually run between 45 and 105 depending on trash or no targets to speak of. Higher Delay numbers, make the chirps from nails harder to tell from desirable targets. With deeper coins or targets in the ground it is easier to hear the target with higher numbers as it will make for a longer sound. A slower sweep of the coil would be required as the Recovery Delay is increased. As the signal that is being processed decays, if another signal is picked up that is stronger than the decaying signal the instrument should sound off on that target. However if it is weaker than the decaying signal then this target will be ignored due to the long recovery delay. As far as making the value smaller I would not drop it below 40 in value as this might cut off some of the signal and not all audio information will heard.
 
Rob where is that located?
 
If you don't have it on your live controls pt it there.

Select The Live Controls I Want To Use

Press the MENU button twice to select the EXPERT Menu. Press ENTER.
Arrow down to Configure and press ENTER.
Arrow down to LIVE CONTROLS and press ENTER.
Select EXTEND and press ENTER.
Select ORDER and press ENTER.
You’ll see a list of available Live Controls, and one entry – {~ The End ~}. The “The End” control is used to designate the end of the list of Live Controls you want to display. You can move any entry in this list by positioning the selection bar over the entry, pressing and holding ENTER, and using the UP / DOWN arrow keys.
All entries ABOVE “{~The End~} will be displayed. The entry on the TOP of the list is the LEFT-MOST entry on the Search Screen. Any entry BELOW {~ The End ~} will NOT be displayed.
 
Played with the Recovery Speed today and the only value that really worked for me was 20. I put two coins on the Ground with more separation than I thought necessary and ran the coil over them. A Value of 30 did not give me the Double Beep I was after and lower than 20 just gave chirps. I may be swinging too fast but this is my normal speed. I still was not satisfied with 20 but I could not go lower. Using Correlate mode set at 20 and -94 along with 25 Consistancy.
 
No disrespect is intended here but why do you want to make a $1700 detector work like a $200 detector? If you are hunting in that much trash, use a small coil, recovery at 40 and go slow...... I don't think you would miss anything and you will dig far less trash than using a Tesoro.
 
5900_XL-1 said:
What coil were you testing Flea? Was it a concentric, or a DD? What size?

I am using a SEF 8X6


5900_XL-1 said:
No disrespect is intended here but why do you want to make a $1700 detector work like a $200 detector? If you are hunting in that much trash, use a small coil, recovery at 40 and go slow...... I don't think you would miss anything and you will dig far less trash than using a Tesoro.

Actually I dig very little trash now but when I have two coins on the ground 6 to 8 inches apart I want two beeps. I am finding lots of goodies with this detector. What concerned me the most was putting a Nickle down beside a Zinc Penniy. In most cases, the average between the two come up in the Pull Tab range, with no detector response. In digging Zincs, I recently found my Dream Coin a Buffalo Nickle that was laying close or in the same hole with a Silver Dime. The average hit at 52 and I dig these. I want to cut down on the chances that I may miss a signal due to this in the future. Last old house I hunted I spent two hours digging up coins in a 8X8 area inside a fence. I know I did not get all the coins there. I know the SEF 8X6 goes plenty Deep, in fact some places I have to pass up signals because they are too deep. Hunting in big open areas moving fast, you are right Recovery on 40 or even higher.

Why the SEF? It is smaller than the stock coil and for me deeper. I recently hunted a place with the Stock coil then went back over it with the SEF. I actually found several coins in the bottom of prior holes. Like most of you I always check multiple times after a dig and moving on.
 
Unless you mark targets and hit them with both coils or both detectors you can't say which is deeper. We had a field we hunted with 2 guys and two different detectors. After we hit the field ( actually a small lot) every way possible we came back the next day and found Indians and silver.
 
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