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Got my X-705 today, boy am I confused!!!

T

treetop flyer

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Hi everyone, I recently got back into the hobby, have kind of gone crazy buying detectors. So far, a Ace 250, Fisher F2, Tesoro Silver uMAX, Tesoro Cortes, and now the 705. Have had no problems with the others, but the X-terra seems a bit overwhelming. Am planning to use the others until I develop a good feel for the 705, I don't want to hastily jump into using it and then be discouraged, though I suppose it probably would be the best way to learn. I will be spending a lot of time with the owners manual, but does anyone have a few "quick start" tips that they found really helpful? ------------ Thanks in advance, TTF
 
Welcome to the X-Terra forum. And don't be overwhelmed. There are lots of great folks on here that will help you become an accomplished X-Terra user. You can find lots of good information (including set up procedures used on the X-70) in the FAQFAQ section above. I wrote an article about coinshooting with the X-70 when they first came out and just haven't had time to do one on the 705 yet. There are enough similarities between the 70 and 705 that reading that one should get you off to a good start! If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. HH Randy
 
Hey hey, well if I was you I would start by running in three or four tones, sens at about half, and disc pattern 2. Be sure to noise cancle and ground balance on a good clear spot. Some say turning down the sens to do this and turning it back up after has helped them alot. It really is a very easy machine compared to some out there. Hope this helps you out, im sure you'll like it when you do, they make a great detector.

Jay
 
Congrats on the new 705! I know the FAQFAQ wiil help you, it sure helped me. Good luck to you and happy hunting, Beale.
 
I can understand your confusion but read the manual hunt with in one of the preset modes and above all watch the video's at the end of FAQFAQ. Honestly to me after 20 years in hobby and using many units X-terra series is user friendly. A word to the wise before you buy any other units check them out thru a dealer as many are really complicated and with time and patience your X-terra should start to make sense to you but being sort of a newbie going to take a while. If you have a clubmember who has one a hunt or two with him will really help your learning process. In addendum lots of nice forum members to help and no such thing as a dumb question..
 
"I can understand your confusion but read the manual...In addendum lots of nice forum members to help and no such thing as a dumb question.."

TTF, I agree with the two above statements and your overwhelming feeling BUT the X-Terra 70 in reality is easy like Swiss Cheese, honestly hardly nothing to it. You are now just initially looking at the scary manual like I did when I first got mine that makes it falsely look about 10 times harder than really is the the real world. It is so simple a young pre-teenage person can be taught and run it in a day, with hands on instruction. Not a fraction of and not nearly as complicated as it first looks by any means. In a week or so you will probably zip through the controls with no problem.

BUT what takes the real-much longer time and learning is the practice on recognizing tones-sounds, interpet what the machine is telling you, swing over the target from different directions, deciding on what settings to use to match the area you are hunting in, your swing techniques, how to pinpoint, determine the size not only approaching from different angles in Prospecting Mode but including by lifting the coil up high(I do not have the 705's new pinpointing feature), etc.

And remember you are not dumb, there is just no such thing as a dumb question...do not try to remember everything at once, trust your mind it will keep it in store for you for the next time, one thing focused at a time. Also doing it twice, three times, etc. will sink it in further and better. We learn from things going right of course but learn even more things going wrong, from messing up, and your mistakes as a blessing, as that is the right normal proceedure, on how we ALL mostly learn, instead of getting pissed off and mad all of the time. Things will go much smoother and smoother once you work out more and more bugs and it will then become more pleasureable and enjoyable . If you keep doing the same thing don't expect different result, try a different way. Work hard and be persistant but also know when to quit when enough is enough.
 
The 705 is easy. Read the manual and take one part of it and go shoot some targets. Then come back and read more of the manual and then do it again. Once you go through each setting and start to get a feel for what is going on, read the manual again. After a while you will understand it. Read the FAQ FAQ...a few times after continued use. Also, go to MLOTV and type "705" and watch the videos. In about a week or two you will hit targets and really understand the settings. The stock coil should suffice while you are learning. In short, here is a real quick setup.

Place your preset to 2-coin mode. I use all metal now that Im used to it.
1.) Set sensitivity to a setting dependent on the trash. Start in the lower range.
2.) Set the tones to 4.
3.) Auto ground balance
4.) I take the advice from FAQ FAQ and at this time back my GB off two segments.
5.) Se threshhold to a real faint hum. I set mine to where I have to really concentrate to notice it.

6.) hit some targets. in a field and play with the sensitivity and each time you make a sensitivity adjustment GB your machine.

At first, I played with track, beach mode, auto GB. I dont use these unless Im on the beach. I have learned to work the machine and pick up on the tones and rarely look at the readings.

Hope this helps. It works for me.
 
Thanks everyone, I do appreciate the advice and encouragement. I have been reading the manual and playing around with the settings and adjustments to familiarize myself with the unit. --- I think the main reason that I am having issues with it is because I have the "Garrett" mindset. ---Also, (IMHO), I think the X-terra's users manual is poorly written, and illustrated. Hopefully I will get to know the bugger, or else she'll be up for sale or trade. ....... Anyone have a Garrett 1500? ...................hmmmmmmm....................... Thanks again, TTF
 
I thought the DVD was pretty well done and is worth watching.

I do know what you mean about it being a bit overwhelming at first. I consider myself fairly experienced and have owned an Explorer XS for years. I won a 705 at a hunt in April and tried to use it that day without reading the manual. All I dug was iron but I didn't even know what the buttons on it did. Someone else familar with Xterras set it up for me but the way the pinpointing works confused me big time, though know I understand that it auto detunes I really like that feature.

Anyway it isn't as hard to understand as it appears at first - I felt like I was ready to go after watching the DVD.

Good Luck and HH
 
I understand your befuddlement completely. I just got my x Terra 705 this spring after many years of metal detecting, then many years away from it. I felt (and still do) your confusion. But, from a neophyte to another, take the suggestions to read the FAQs. In fact, when planning a trip to the beach, I printed out how to correctly ground balance on the beach from the FAQs and took it with me. I was standing on the edge of the water reading suggestions from the FAQ section. They go in to the depth in the FAQ that a manufacturer cannot and still produce a manageable size manual.

I noticed another thing about learning the X Terra. And it parallels learning new software or a procedure on a computer. Some can and I admire them, but I cannot read instructions from a manual and say, "Got it!" May I suggest learning from the manual what the buttons are for and how to access the various functions. Then, just take your machine and go out and fool around with it. Listen to it, get a signal, then change settings, see what happens. THEN, go back and read the manual. You'll find that something you glossed over the first time through, you will then read it and say, "Oh yeah, I recall the machine doing that," and it starts to fall into place. I am no where close to mastering the 705 and a recent operation has set that back. But, I've done enough so far to say that I think for the money, we got really good metal detectors.
 
question . if you adjust sensitivity levels up to max on the 705 , does that mean it will detect objects deeper in the ground ?
 
I bought mine new, in the box from a large reputable dealer, but there is no DVD. Should I have gotten one? Thanks again, TTF
 
I may be wrong but the disc is for the 30/50/70. As I posted further back up on this thread, go to MLOTV and watch the videos on the 305/505/705. The detector is not that difficult and the only fault with the manual is how to tie all the settings together, if that.
 
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,671251,671675#msg-671675
 
A DVD came in box (in the plastic bag with the manual and warranty card). It covers how to setup and use all of the features of the machine by following a guy as he uses the machine. Shows which buttons he presses and what the screens looks like. Very well done, easy to follow and covers all of the detectors features.

You should get a copy - loads easier than reading the manual. Though looking at the manual after watching the video helps too.
 
Yeah, it takes a bit of adjusting from using a garrett machine. I found it to be a bit of a 'culture shock' when I first bought my Ace. I'd been using the X-Terra 30 for 12 months prior, and found that it took a bit of adjusting to the more blunt tones of Garrett's. I've got a 1500 as well, but won't be parting with it. I do tend to prefer the 70 over the 1500. Mostly for it's tones, lightness and large numbers, but I do like aspects of the 1500 as well.
Mick Evans.
 
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