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Got my new Vaquero

walnut

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I have been using my Compadre and enjoying it and just enough success to keep it interesting, and then some. So I ordered a new Vaquero. I took it out today, and can see that it takes somewhat more effort to get a handle on than the Compadre, but I made some progress. Found some new, probably deep targets at an old homesite that the Compadre missed (can't knock the Compadre though, it found nice gold there). I will be back tomorrow to actually dig them...
 
that's good news and yep takes a bit more to get used to than the Compadre but hang in there take some time getting used to the GB knob and there is no hurry. if they were easy to master everyone would be doing it :detecting: time takes time.

AJ
 
I like the way that machine discriminates.You'll enjoy it :)
 
The Vaquero is one of my favorite detectors. What works best for me is using a very slight audio hum on the threshold when detecting in the discriminate mode and running the sensitivity as high as I can without it getting unstable. For some reason on my Vaquero and Cibola, I run 100% sensitivity without them getting unstable. Also I keep the ground balance slightly negative, but still close to neural. This book is worth the money: Mastering the Tesoro Tejon and Vaquero Metal Detectors.

tabman
 
HI Tabman,

I assume (?) you mean a slight audio hum in all metal to ground balance and then to DISC? Correct me if I am wrong. Thx,
Andy from Hillsborough
 
homebre said:
HI Tabman,

I assume (?) you mean a slight audio hum in all metal to ground balance and then to DISC? Correct me if I am wrong. Thx,
Andy from Hillsborough

Yeah, that's right. The all metal threshold carries over to the discriminate mode. I don't lose any depth using a sight threshold in the discriminate mode. Deep coin size targets give off soft audio whispers and put a smile on my face.:)

tabman
 
tabman said:
homebre said:
HI Tabman,

I assume (?) you mean a slight audio hum in all metal to ground balance and then to DISC? Correct me if I am wrong. Thx,
Andy from Hillsborough

Yeah, that's right. The all metal threshold carries over to the discriminate mode. I don't lose any depth using a sight threshold in the discriminate mode. Deep coin size targets give off soft audio whispers and put a smile on my face.:)

tabman

That is interesting, and a little confusing. If you prefer doing it that way, what is the point of supertuning exactly? Just a matter of preference? This is the main confusion I have been having since I started messing with it.
 
I am with tabman I don't run a high threshold in disc mode if you cant stand it in all metal then why run it that high in disc mode dosnt make any sense.

super tune might work for some but stability is what finds targets not raw power :biggrin: and there will be plenty who disagree I am sure :detecting:

AJ
 
yep high threshold with high gain = scratchy signals.
 
Rusty said the same thing to be. In all metal, the sensitivity is constant (turning the knob) shouldn't affect it. You want to runing all metal with the Threshold audibly but not too loud so you hear the subtleties, In DISC mode mode you turn the threshold up to supertune. Hope I got that correct! By the way I sent by Vaq in for a check-up as it couldn't detect a minnieball at over 7 inches.
Andy from Hillsborough
 
homebre said:
By the way I sent by Vaq in for a check-up as it couldn't detect a minnieball at over 7 inches.
Andy from Hillsborough

Let us know how it goes . My Vaq doesnt get the depth that the ones posted on Youtube do . Its not even close . I'm not saying I want to dig ten inch mercury dimes but I would like the 6 inch ones to be a little better signal .
 
I will. I am missing it--had to use my Musketeer when I went out this week on a short hunt. It has a no motion all metal which is nice but it is heavy.
Andy from Hillsborough
 
I think too, by turning down the threshold some while in the disc mode will allow the deeper targets to sound softer/weaker, revealing that they are in fact deeper than the 3-4 inch targets. My understanding is that in disc, the threshold amplifies the signal, so turning it way up will make a deeper target sound like it is closer to the surface than it actually is. Some like to hunt this way and then measure depth by raising the coil, some prefer to reduce the threshold, thereby making those deeper signals sound fainter... To each his own I guess. I have noticed on the golden that turning the threshold up all the way does give me another inch or so in depth ( air testing), and I have good head phones too (gray ghosts).
 
Now I am wanting to get a 5.75 coil so I can use the Vaq more like a deep Compadre that I am more used to. I have read many posts saying that the 5.75 widescan is great in trash, great in iron etc. But that conflicts with what Tesoro has recommended, and Monte, who say stick with concentric coils unless using in mineralized soils.

I would like to be able to nugget hunt just occasionally so I was wondering if the widescan 5.75 would be a good compromise. But I will be at old house sites, city parks, etc much more than would be out nugget hunting in another state.

Not sure which to buy?
 
Or, looking at the test results in that above thread ( http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,2200928 ), maybe the 5 x 10 eliptical? better depth and can pick up tiny gold jewelry even better than the 5.75? Wonder how it would be in the trash in old parks and old homesites.
 
I use a DD on the V and a C on the O seems to work but just getting in to Concentric coils as a mop up after the DD"s small place I live in and so its very clinical how I detect and which machines I use in what order and yes I have OCD also doing a great community serve picking up all the junk people drop, but sure beats working right :clapping:

AJ
 
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