Got a new Racer! I like!

[jgedde]

It's been a dry summer for me as far as finds and I was getting frustrated. Since everything around here has been pounded to death, I figured a new detector might help. After hemming and hawing and weeks of research I got my new Makro racer last week. So far I'm very impressed with this unit.

When it arrived, I prompty unboxed it, assembled it, and took it out to the back yard for some testing. I've been pounding my back yard for years with another detector I have, a very high end unit with a lot of adjustments, and pretty much cleaned out everything of interest - or so I thought. Within 20 minutes, the Racer found two copper pennies! Nothing old mind you, but it made a strong impression on me that this new detector found stuff that the top of the line unit from another manufacturer left behind,.

I've been using it daily since and have found a few coins, nothing profoundly interesting. Upon a visit to a place I go regularly, I found this:

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It's a clothing button from around 1820 from what I've been able to find out. And it's a tiny little thing!

I definitlely need for seat time with this detector to really get to know it, but so far my impressions are favorable. If I could change anything, I would make the settings be retained when you turn power off - right now the detector goes to default settings after you cycle power. The other thing would be some sort of expanded VDI/TID for 82. 82 is a weird number. Could be zinc, could be a copper penny, could be junk. Kind of a catch all.

I will also note that my detector has a minor problem: the LED flashlight doesn't work. A new one is coming on Monday from the vendor who has also issued a call tag for the original unit. The folks I bought it from are a real pleasure to deal with...

Cheers!
John

 

[Cal_Cobra]

Put the time in on the Racer and you'll be duly rewarded. Usually by the second set of batteries, the audio will start to click, it has some very telling audio nuances that just take time to learn. I've found that taking it to the trashiest place you have to learn it, isn't the best way to learn it, but it sounds like a spot like your pounded back yard may do. The 5" coil is killer at unmasking co-adjacent trash, it will not typically be a five start four way signal, but it'll give you the right info to indicate there's a goodie mixed in with the trash.

Good luck with the Racer!
Brian

 

[jgedde]

The Racer and I are really getting along! This unit and I seem to 'click.' I love this unit more and more each time I use it. The small coil included with the Pro kit makes it even more enjoyable. The target separation is like nothing I ever encountered!

I really like my E-Trac and the fact that it's a coin magnet with profoundly good discrimination, but the Racer is just so enjoyable to use!

The amount of information available in the audio is profound once you get used to it. Is it perfect? No, but it's really good. I have a few ideas that could make it even better: more tones, notch capability, and more expansion around TID 82. Paying attention Makro?

John

 

[Nokta Detectors]

The Racer and I are really getting along! This unit and I seem to 'click.' I love this unit more and more each time I use it. The small coil included with the Pro kit makes it even more enjoyable. The target separation is like nothing I ever encountered!

I really like my E-Trac and the fact that it's a coin magnet with profoundly good discrimination, but the Racer is just so enjoyable to use!

The amount of information available in the audio is profound once you get used to it. Is it perfect? No, but it's really good. I have a few ideas that could make it even better: more tones, notch capability, and more expansion around TID 82. Paying attention Makro?

John

Hello John...thank you for your feedback and comments. Just wanted to let you know that yes we definitely are paying attention and our future machines will be the proof! Maybe we cannot make every single person happy as the requests are endless but we will definitely try our best to give the majority of users what they need.

 

[Nokta Detectors]

The Racer and I are really getting along! This unit and I seem to 'click.' I love this unit more and more each time I use it. The small coil included with the Pro kit makes it even more enjoyable. The target separation is like nothing I ever encountered!

I really like my E-Trac and the fact that it's a coin magnet with profoundly good discrimination, but the Racer is just so enjoyable to use!

The amount of information available in the audio is profound once you get used to it. Is it perfect? No, but it's really good. I have a few ideas that could make it even better: more tones, notch capability, and more expansion around TID 82. Paying attention Makro?

John

 

[Nokta Detectors]

The Racer and I are really getting along! This unit and I seem to 'click.' I love this unit more and more each time I use it. The small coil included with the Pro kit makes it even more enjoyable. The target separation is like nothing I ever encountered!

I really like my E-Trac and the fact that it's a coin magnet with profoundly good discrimination, but the Racer is just so enjoyable to use!

The amount of information available in the audio is profound once you get used to it. Is it perfect? No, but it's really good. I have a few ideas that could make it even better: more tones, notch capability, and more expansion around TID 82. Paying attention Makro?

John

In addition to my post above and to be more specific, more tones, notch etc. are features incorporated already in the future models.

 

[D&P-OR]

That is what we like to hear!----Any (approximate) time line when we can expect a model with these features to appear on the market?

The Racer and I are really getting along! This unit and I seem to 'click.' I love this unit more and more each time I use it. The small coil included with the Pro kit makes it even more enjoyable. The target separation is like nothing I ever encountered!

I really like my E-Trac and the fact that it's a coin magnet with profoundly good discrimination, but the Racer is just so enjoyable to use!

The amount of information available in the audio is profound once you get used to it. Is it perfect? No, but it's really good. I have a few ideas that could make it even better: more tones, notch capability, and more expansion around TID 82. Paying attention Makro?

John

In addition to my post above and to be more specific, more tones, notch etc. are features incorporated already in the future models.

 

[Monte]

maybe 4 Tones, and many who like a 2-Tone without VCO audio, and even more who like to have the option of selecting the audio Tone response they are getting and not having a fixed built-in multi-tone audio. I have met with and/or be in communication with quiet a few who initially thought they would like a "multi-tone" detector [size=small](such as the White's M6 and MXT Pro with 7 Tones or their MX5 w/8-Tones)[/size], but having hunted a variety of sites and working with all the Tone ID options, they have come to prefer a Tone choice more like I do, and that is to have it selectable, but not too many tones.

Monte

 

[Nokta Detectors]

It is really hard to give a timeframe but they are all in the works. Some further down in the project than others...but I can clearly say not this year, at least for the coin & relic devices.

That is what we like to hear!----Any (approximate) time line when we can expect a model with these features to appear on the market?

 

[JFlynn]

John here's my perspective on why the Racer/CoRe work so well.
To me, simply put, you are listening to virtually everything in the ground almost. The audio is set free by doing that. The Turkish machines audio is superb once you learn it. Not having disc and notch muddying up the waters lets a great flow of sounds come out of the machines that is very telling and intelligent. The machines like good metal so much there is a distinct, night and day difference in the sounds. Think of other machines with notch and disc settings where ever you want to assign them. Coming and going over each assignment you really have a break point, ie; different sounds/audio/crackling. Muddying up the waters again even more mind you. Now it appears what we have now is a blocking of just the audio for disc instead of some intricate system that does analysis like so many machines have today. Simple is BETTER as we've realized/found out. I love the 82 TID on the machines, audio is king here. Very short crisp report, dig it. Anything else more than likely you are going to dig junk. That applies to all the signals everywhere on the scale for what most of us seek. Short crisp "good" sound, stands out like a sore thumb. These might be the only machines you can close your eyes using and once the audio is in your brain dig almost all good targets, that nuanced mind you.

The Racer and I are really getting along! This unit and I seem to 'click.' I love this unit more and more each time I use it. The small coil included with the Pro kit makes it even more enjoyable. The target separation is like nothing I ever encountered!

I really like my E-Trac and the fact that it's a coin magnet with profoundly good discrimination, but the Racer is just so enjoyable to use!

The amount of information available in the audio is profound once you get used to it. Is it perfect? No, but it's really good. I have a few ideas that could make it even better: more tones, notch capability, and more expansion around TID 82. Paying attention Makro?

John

 

[foreign object]

Yes the expansion of vid 82/83 would be nice.

I really prefer 3 tones but would like to be able to set the tone breaks.

One more would be a little lower freq.

I have never used a Racer but have used a Nokta Forks core.

Was the Racer sold to the masses as a prototype for the development of the new Nokta.

Sort of looking that way.

 

[Tom Slick]

Actually the Nokta ForsCore was the Prototype for the Racer.