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Good assortment of coins for today - some interesting spills!

CZconnoisseur

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Got up bright and early this morning to a cool and clear sky - the oppressive heat that had been around all last week got blown out, at least temporarily! First stop this morning was a recently vacated rental built in 1926 that was exactly one block from where I hunted 2 weeks ago. The grass was freshly mowed and the ground was fairly soft thanks to a good bit of rain on Friday and Saturday. Began hunting around 6:15 and tried out 4khz - but EMI was terrible! Switched to 12khz, Reactivity 3, and TX = 1 and this was running very smooth and stable. First target was a clad quarter - which is always a good sign since any possible cherrypickers would have dug that target had they been detecting - which reinforced the notion of this being a virgin site.

I noticed the ground wasn't too polluted with errant and choppy targets, so I adjusted Reactivity to 2 for those deeper hits, and kept an "open screen" as far as notching goes...using 00-35 and 98-99 for 12 khz. A "30-35" indication in 12khz comes in close to "foil" range, but I dug plenty of it today searching for the elusive yellow metal! Made my way close to the front door and got a jumpy and scratchy "89-92" indication with a little depth. This was to be one of three noteworthy old coin spills found today! First coin out of this hole was a green 1941 D Wheat...stacked on top of the Wheat was a steel washer that I figured could have been a 1943 steel cent - turns out it was just a washer. Rescanning the hole I got a very crisp "90" and out came the thinnest Mercury dime I've ever seen; so thin that there wasn't a legible date!

One more scan of the hole produced a faint high tone and a little deeper yet was another Wheat! Pumped from this first spill, I was primed and ready to find more! About 3 feet away there was a larger signal that turned out to be an old pocketknife (not pictured) from about 11" down. After filling that hole and rescanning there was a crisp "86-87" just a little offset from where the knife was - a worn 1934 quarter saw the light of day after at least 60 years buried! I jabbed it somewhat with the Lesche but no big deal...it and I were happy to meet each other :rofl:


By now I could see where I'd been in this front yard from where the dew was undisturbed, and noticed I missed a couple small areas. Went back over those areas and found some clad and maybe a Wheat or two - just goes to show you that NO ONE gets it all on the first pass, or even the thirteenth pass! I was about one third through the front yard and finally got a nickel signal...this was to be a sharp 1936 Buffalo nickel from only 3" deep!

My uncle always told me that once you find an old coin...go back over the immediate area with no discrimination to find other targets. Who knows? That person who dropped that particular coin may have had a gold ring in his or her pocket and COULD HAVE lost it along with the coin you just found. He told me this around 1988-1989. Today this tip is still a "best practice" idea but there's no need to reduce or eliminate disc if you are using Full Tone audio with an "open screen" (an "open screen" to me is NOT having an "aluminum window" notched - the user digs everything repeatable, including aluminum scraps...but iron is of course discriminated and/or notched out)

Came upon a "70-71" while still using 12 khz, and I almost didn't dig it since that last several targets in this VDI range were junk...first coin I saw in the hole was a toasty 1946 Jefferson. I rescanned the hole to get an "84-85"..."Oh boy, another coin spill!" I thought. The audio was clean and tight, and just under where that Jeff nickel was came a 1939 Merc! The Propointer was still screaming in the hole...just offset was a third coin, a crisp 1930 Buffalo nickel! By now the excitement could be cut with a knife, and I still had some real estate to cover before calling it "hunted". Picked up some more clad here and there, and finally found myself near the front door where the Merc and 2 wheats were found earlier.

There was this iffy one-way hit about three feet from the first coin spill - VDI was jumping all over the place, from the 50s to the 80s and wouldn't settle down. Got a fair bead on where the signal was strongest, and a few seconds later there was a silver glint in the bottom of the hole! A 1943 war nickel was the first to be rescued from this hole...got a hit in the sidewall with the PP, and out came a steel conduit bracket. The PP was STILL screaming...this time on the opposite sidewall - and then a 1941 Merc showed itself! Coin spill extravaganza! Went on to pull 2 more deeper Wheats in the immediate area...so far for the day I had recovered 5 silvers, 2 Buffalo nickels, and about the cost of one-way gas in clad...and it was only 9:15 in the morning!

The next rental was situated on a busy road but traffic wasn't too heavy yet. Arrived about 9:30 - this house was built in 1941 and was plenty old enough to hold some nice keepers! For this house I used 4 and 12 khz - EMI was non-existent and trash levels were very moderate. Walked up on a "71-74" in 4 khz and was expecting a Memorial or Wheat - much to my surprise I saw a larger silver rim staring back at me from about 4" deep! Pulled out a 1952 quarter that had some foil co-located which I guess brought down the VDI a bit. I spent the next 60 minutes trying to find a hotspot for older coins, and finally found three Wheats in the backyard within 5 feet of one another. A little deeper into the backyard I received a low tone, a solid "36-39" while in 4 khz. From only 2" deep came the oldest coin of the day, a worn 1905 V nickel. One of the last finds at this place was a pocketwatch that was far too gone to be repaired - but still a neat find nonetheless.

I can only wonder what XP is currently developing as far as a newer coil configuration. Using the 11" coil has more than paid for itself and the finds have been spectacular on all fronts, but I KNOW that I'm walking over and past a few coins nestled deep within iron trash up close to houses and front stoops. There are coins at most houses that are so masked that NO current detector would be able to find them even if only 3-4" deep. There comes a point where there's simply too much iron for the detector to sort through. If XP was working on a multi-freq sniper coil hinthint then many of these coins could be discovered and the ones already visible would be icing on the cake...can't wait to see what's next!
 
Wow CZ, you cleaned house--the rentals that is! Great job and thanks for the write-up and loads of tips I'm sure many of us will be putting into practice! I feel it; you're only a few more swings away from gold! Both of your quarters came in low...I'll have to keep an eye out for that~
 
Very nice batch of silver and old coins. In fact, pretty strong turf church hunts. :thumbup: HH jim tn
 
Great haul !
 
Man! :yikes: You sure got a lot of very productive time behind that stick! :clapping: Cant wait to see what you find next!

All metal detectors should have a little clock on them that records the total running time just so a guy knows.....Great posts! You sure got that rig working for you and your location and strategy dialed in!
Mud
 
Where do you set your Discrimination at like 0-6 or 0-10 and then notch out from 6-35 or 10-35 and 98 and 99?

What is your ground mineralization reading at? Mine here is 85-90 so I leave it on factory 90 myself but I haven't tried your TX power set on 1 instead of the factory setting of 2.

I do run 12khz and made the GM Power (program #2) and DEUS Fast (program #3) almost the same but changed the REACTIVITY setting of 1 or 2 on GM Power and 3 or 4 in Deus Fast with -1 for the silencer for both for the depth.

What are your other settings please I would like to try your setups. THANKS.
 
EtracTom-AdirondacksNY said:
Where do you set your Discrimination at like 0-6 or 0-10 and then notch out from 6-35 or 10-35 and 98 and 99?

What is your ground mineralization reading at? Mine here is 85-90 so I leave it on factory 90 myself but I haven't tried your TX power set on 1 instead of the factory setting of 2.

I do run 12khz and made the GM Power (program #2) and DEUS Fast (program #3) almost the same but changed the REACTIVITY setting of 1 or 2 on GM Power and 3 or 4 in Deus Fast with -1 for the silencer for both for the depth.

What are your other settings please I would like to try your setups. THANKS.

Tom,

I primarily use 4 khz for hunting homesites but if EMI gets in the way I toggle over to a very similar setup in 12 khz. I NEVER use the factory programs but what I do use is modeled after Deus Fast and the GM Power programs. I have found that the factory programs are a little less sensitive to deeper targets and at least to me, run a little too much Disc. Try setting up Deus Fast in a custom slot...use the exact same parameters and do some simple air testing. The custom program you've just created, although the settings are identical, will hit targets a shade deeper than the factory presets.

Full tone audio really helps with 4 khz and keeps me from glancing at the screen (which wastes precious time). Even the audio spread on US coins in 12 khz is enough to where most of the time you can tell the difference between a copper penny and clad dime by the audio alone! TX = 1 won't cost much depth but helps contrast good targets among the trash. Realistically you may lose 1/2" or less on coin-sized targets in most situations

4khz
Full Tones
Sens 85
Reactivity 2 or 3 depending on trash levels
Silencer -1
Disc 2.0
Iron Vol 0
Notch 00-28, 92-99
Audio Response 4
Overload 1
GB Manual 85
Ground Notch 85-90

12khz
Full Tones
TX = 1
Sens 85
Reactivity 2
Silencer 0 (helps with bottlecaps and some iron targets)
Disc 2.0
Iron Vol 0
Notch 00-35, 98-99
Audio Response 4
Overload 1
GB Manual 85
Ground Notch 85-90

Most of the time my ground reads 80-85 but sometimes getting closer to houses it drops into the 70s. At this point I increase Reactivity to 3 and slow down the swing to help the software do its thing...

As far as using Notch and Disc at 06-35 and 00-06, respectively; you can overlap the two settings but this comes at the cost of depth and sensitivity and doesn't accomplish much in the field. I run Disc at 2.0 and usually Notch 00-whatever depending on the Freq. I've tried running Notch at 02-35 and don't notice any difference in performance. Disc set at 10 or higher will start costing depth and separation abilities. The difference between Disc set at 2.0 vs 10 really helps fringe targets come in clearer, especially if running Reactivity 3 where your max depth is compromised anyway. Further sensitivity can be had at Disc = 0, but it seems that a tad of Disc helps with iron rejection and stabilizes VDI (that last part may just be conjecture)

You results may vary but the soil around here is lightly to moderately mineralized - not sure about your area though.

GL & HH
 
THANKS CZconnoisseur Appreciate the explaining.

I will adjust the disc and notch and try TX power 1.

I generally run 12khz here for the Highly mineralized high reading ground around here and the hot rocks, GB is 87 here up in this mountainous area.
 
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