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Gone and done it

Sven

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Commited myself to purchase a used Coinstrike. I'm going to take the Coinstrike challenge.
I have owned a ID Edge a few years ago and a Fisher F5, so I have some idea how several of the controls work with each other.
Just have to get used to all the touch pads, kind of like knobs and switches.....

Better start reading the manual while I wait for it too arrive.
 
Sven, the C$ manual is badly written. They say to read the GoldStrike manual, it is more understandable. The C$ has 3 Memories. In the beginning I set each of them up, each different. Later I learned that I didn't need them. Memory 0 is always storing the last settings you make (Sens, Thresh, Volume, etc.) . And when you turn the detector off, Memory 0 will retain the settings. Memory 0 does not interfere with the 3 Memories settings. If you set up say Memory 1 and then go back to Memory 0, Memory 0 will be a duplicate of Memory 1, or Memory 2, or 3. Memory 0 is not really a memory, but it always keeps settings stored and they can be changed to your will. If you want to make changes to Memories 1, 2, or 3 you have to open that Memory bank, make the changes then lock that Memory bank to exit from it. Memory 0 cannot be locked. MarkCZ knows the C$ like the back of his hand. He might be able to help you with questions.
 
Good choice i purchased a coinstrike a few years ago its a great machine give it the time to understand it, few guys here who will give lots of positive help and will answer questions on using it. Good luck hunting.

Michael
 
jabbo said:
Sven, the C$ manual is badly written. They say to read the GoldStrike manual, it is more understandable. The C$ has 3 Memories. In the beginning I set each of them up, each different. Later I learned that I didn't need them. Memory 0 is always storing the last settings you make (Sens, Thresh, Volume, etc.) . And when you turn the detector off, Memory 0 will retain the settings. Memory 0 does not interfere with the 3 Memories settings. If you set up say Memory 1 and then go back to Memory 0, Memory 0 will be a duplicate of Memory 1, or Memory 2, or 3. Memory 0 is not really a memory, but it always keeps settings stored and they can be changed to your will. If you want to make changes to Memories 1, 2, or 3 you have to open that Memory bank, make the changes then lock that Memory bank to exit from it. Memory 0 cannot be locked. MarkCZ knows the C$ like the back of his hand. He might be able to help you with questions.
"jabbo" is correct in downloading the Gold Strike manual and where that will help you the most is in the area of the Threshold. The C$ manual will likely confuse you about the threshold.

The cautions about starting out with the C$ is simple,
Don't try to start out running it to HOT! That means don't start out using the pre-programed coin program, its too HOT!
Good start settings would be,
Sensitivity = 5 to 6
Threshold = minus 20 to minus 30
If your not relic hunting then set the Disc to full 99 (its only Iron discrimination anyway)
and even at these settings you will find that the detector is still pretty hot.

Good Luck
Mark
 
Started reading all the posts I could find as well as The Fisher Coinstrike Homepage.
It will be an interesting machine
 
So far I really like the C$.I have been using it for a few months.There is def a learning curve compared to "point and shoot" CZ's. I have been using the small 6" coil for the past few weeks,and am going to leave it on unless I relic/beach hunt. I get far fewer false signals from iron washers,steel bottlecaps,etc.Most places I detect are small/medium in size,so ground coverage isn't an issue.I tend to run with sens at 4 or 5,threshold from neg 10 to neg 25.These settings are very tame and work well for me.I dug at a soccer field yesterday,and was getting burned out on zincolins.I notched them out,along with foil and had a very nice hunt.My nickel take was better,because I didn't have to second guess myself on foil signals.The pinpoint will also take some getting used to.The"higher"the number in pinpoint, the "shallower" the target.It's also easy to detune to the point of loosing your target.On pinpoint signals of 86 or higher,along with my Garrett propointer I was recovering shallow targets hidden under manicured grass at record speed with no turf damage.This machine can do a lot.It has salt mode for the beach,It i.d.'s targets in all metal mode for relic hunting,it's great on coins, stores custom programs,and has backlight for night hunts.Yeah it has a learning curve,but it's worth it.
 
tmattei said:
So far I really like the C$.I have been using it for a few months.There is def a learning curve compared to "point and shoot" CZ's. I have been using the small 6" coil for the past few weeks,and am going to leave it on unless I relic/beach hunt. I get far fewer false signals from iron washers,steel bottlecaps,etc.Most places I detect are small/medium in size,so ground coverage isn't an issue.I tend to run with sens at 4 or 5,threshold from neg 10 to neg 25.These settings are very tame and work well for me.I dug at a soccer field yesterday,and was getting burned out on zincolins.I notched them out,along with foil and had a very nice hunt.My nickel take was better,because I didn't have to second guess myself on foil signals.The pinpoint will also take some getting used to.The"higher"the number in pinpoint, the "shallower" the target.It's also easy to detune to the point of loosing your target.On pinpoint signals of 86 or higher,along with my Garrett propointer I was recovering shallow targets hidden under manicured grass at record speed with no turf damage.This machine can do a lot.It has salt mode for the beach,It i.d.'s targets in all metal mode for relic hunting,it's great on coins, stores custom programs,and has backlight for night hunts.Yeah it has a learning curve,but it's worth it.

I never used the number system for pinpointing, I just watch the coil and ground as I pass over the target and I eyeball center of the target and detune to reduce center. Now what I did do was I somewhat converted the pinpoint numbers and used them for coin target depth.
I mark the target with a gulf tee, then raise the coin about waist high, hold down the pinpoint button and lower the center of the coil to center of the gulf tee and read the pinpoint numbers.
Now the conversion was not exact but I used a US nickel and stacked up some wood at difference thicknesses between the coil and the coin and noted the different reading as the inches increased.

It went something like this, (I'm not looking at the real worked out numbers right now, but its easy to work out your own numbers)
95-99 =surface
90-95 = 2"
80-90 =3"
ect...

Then I printed it out on paper and used some carton tape and taped it to the top of the control housing.

I used a nickel because in size it falls between pennies/dimes and quarters.

Now, lets say you get a reading of 28 and a pinpoint reading of 95 if its not within the first inch or so of dirt, ITS NOT A PENNY/DIME! its almost always either a crushed pop can or at lest the top or bottom of a pop can at 4" to 5" Don't waist your time digging for it unless you just want to get it out of the way.

There are a couple of ways of looking at the C$,
Complicated,
Or Simple,

In the beginning I took the complicated approach! that was a bad idea ( I think most start out this way)
Then when I found out that all my thought to be complicated problems was a bad coil, the C$ got real simple, it just takes a little time for it to click.

If I'm hunting an area where the coins are old and deep I ran it as hot as I can and it still stable, (8" coil)
Sensitivity =9
Threshold = -10 -5
Full Iron disc,
Notch out Foil.

If your surface hunting ball fields to say 5" then you could run it with these settings,
Sensitivity =5
Threshold = -25 or even -35

I never used the memory banks just because it stores the last used settings, so seeing how I hunt in the same general areas and the only times I need to just the sensitivity and threshold is for interference.

One warning about the C$ is the volume control and headphones, its LOUD at full volume, which is the main reason I bought headphones with a volume limiter.


Mark

Mark
 
I have had lots of units that weighed as much or more and didn't handle near as well as the C$. Some of the real old ones I had that took 14 Double AA batteries were really heavy.

Mark
 
Here is the Fisher 1266,
And the CZ-7a Pro,
I just checked out the weight of a new E-Trac and that is REALLY HEAVY! = 4.8lbs

Mark
 
Here is the Tesoro Tejon, there is only a half pound difference between this one and the C$

Mark
 
In great shape, came with the 8" coil and 6" coil. two rechargeable 9 volt batteries and charger. And a ton of learning, reading material. VHS tape as well, too bad I don't have a VCR.
As for weight, yes heavier than a Tesoro but, it feels well balanced.
Will need to spend some time bench testing, weather calls for rain for the next 4 days.
 
Sven, Glad you got it. If you have bad soil then reduce the Threshold a lot.
 
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