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Golden uMax

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I've been reading this forum for months and now I've got a question for my learned peers. I presently hunt with an X2, I'm wanting a new machine with notching capability. I've been told that the new Tesoros now pick up pennies and dimes on full discrimination due to "customer requests". Say it ain't so, please tell me we haven't upgraded to my 14 year old, 1266-x fisher. I enjoy knocking quarters and dimes out of the ground, but I'm too old and tired to add to the buckets of pennies from the old days. I would run to my local dealer to find out, but that's about a 520 mile round trip. Thank you for all the up to date information this site continually provides.
 
I don't follow the latest Tesoro talk like I used to, so this "new" development, if true, would be news to me. If it were true, I don't think it extends to any of the current production models, including the Golden -- and for the Golden, it wouldn't make sense because what good's a notch detector that doesn't notch, except maybe something new for the Island of Misfit Toys?
You could also phone or e-mail Tesoro for a clarification on this.
Scott
 
My Golden won't reject pre 1982 pennies or dimes, neither would any of the several other Tesoros I've had. If you want to reject everything below quarters, or everything period, there are detectors that have that capability. Garrett has several models in their line at decent prices that will do it.
JB
 
I appreciate your response, and believe your assessment of your machine to be true, but my personal experience with the (original) Silver Sabre and the Sidewinder is:
discrimination setting of 10= silver dimes + quarters
discrimination setting of 9= clad dimes and up
discrimination setting of 8.75=pennies and up
I have to admit that I use a Gtax (green machine) for nickel and ring hunting. This notching uMax would lighten my swing load by a couple of pounds, so I won't give up on Tesoro just yet.
Thanks
 
Thank you, this is exactly what I thought. Deciding on my next purchase seemed easy until I heard the discriminator had been fixed for people who didn't know you could stop the knob somewhere between "0" and "10". I'll call the factory Monday and find out if it's an urban myth or a crying shame.
Have a good day.
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dimes down doesn't mean great. Silver dimes on top of the ground doesn't always read the same in the ground due to target averaging, many silver dimes are passed cause minute trash targets, even mineral's can average the signal response slightly lower than it actually is.
I've dug silver that indicated zinc or lower.
That's been my experience. HH......jim
 
I hunted an old park with a Sovereign/DTI meter combo a few years ago and dug a couple of mercs, a 50's Roosie, several wheaties and a few pre 82 pennies in one area that gave mid tones and read 162 to 167 on the DTI meter. That's beavertail pulltab range, and that wasn't an isolated occurrence. The last merc I dug was at an old homesite and had about 2/3rds of a 16 penny size square nail in the hole with it, I was using the Cointrax Baron/5.5" coil combo with tone set to break on foil and barely got a high tone in one direction. The dime and nail averaged out below nickel in the disc range.
JB
 
I have said the same thing to other hunters that are looking for the "magic machine" myself. However, with the luxury of being able to hunt twenty to thirty hours during the week, while everyone else is working, I have different methods for hunting different locations as I'm sure that you do. The two extremes are as follows. An old forgotten homesite that is fenced in and the owner is fairly certain it hasn't been hunted gets a careful and deliberate massage with the 1266-x.
The majority of the places I hunt are high traffic public areas, routed in the morning, on the fly. Given the proliferation of our activity, I use another method my father-in-law calls quarter whacking. We jump out, grab the X-2s, set for full dicriminate to see if it has recently been hunted. Typically, it's quickly obvious if it has been hunted to death or requires more "research". No dimes or quarters in 30 minutes we move on, a few coins we swap to the nickel machines to check what degree of discrimination was used.
On average we hit 1 out of 20 stops that will yield over 100 quarters in a couple of hours. These locations usually yield several good finds over several consecutive days ranging the full spectrum from foil on up.
All I want is a machine that is reasonably priced, that will perform like my X-2 (without a meter) with notching capability and I still want to believe the the Golden could be that machine. (whew)
If I have any other questions please assume I haven't a clue as what I'm talking about and we'll move up the scale of information just as we've done here. This forum and the wealth of information provided by you gentlemen and a host of others are helping me to develop my craft that the uninformed call a hobby.
Thank You <img src="/metal/html/grin.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":grin">
Tony Porterfield
Memphis, TN
 
Just got back from a little over an hour hunt with the Golden at a small park that's been in use since 1951. The area I hunted was around the pavilion where people have picnics, family reunions and parties. That small area is loaded with just about every kind of bottlecaps and tabs imaginable, so many that no one else has made any real effort to hunt it. I set the disc tight on the bottom end of nickel range, notch tight on top end of nickel range, ran with notch turned off and listened to all the signals. When I got a high tone, mixed high/medium tone or low nickel tone, I flipped to bottlecap/tab notch to check. I got the coins in the pic, which includes a 49 Roosie and a 45 wheatie, at depths to 6 inches and the only trash I dug were three flattened bottlecaps, a brass belt buckle and a couple of half dollar sized pieces of aluminum. No zincs or tabs, all the pennies are pre 82. I use a 7 inch ShadowX2 coil on it and while it doesn't have the depth of my other detectors it gets dimes at 6 inches with no problem. Actually, my dime count compared to other coins is higher with the Golden than any of my other detectors. I've been considering selling it as I seldom use it but may not, it's a heckuva detector for quick coin hunts.
JB
 
I hate to tell you this but it's true! I to am to old to want to go after pennies, I will hang on to my Eldorado that I just bought because it's a fun machine.
I have sent this URL too Tesoro and asked that they monitor this forum. I stand with you on this issue, I want discrimination that's able to knock out pennies. I will email them and ask for this, along with an Eldorodo that has more then one tone.
Click on the Tesoro ad at the top of the forum, and it will take you to the Tesoro home page, they have a contract link on that site, if anyone cares to join me.
Keep em Beepin boys
 
This forum is usually my last stop for stuff to read when all the other forums get kinda dead, so sorry for not posting sooner. I've owned and used three Tesoros (Silver Sabre II, Bandido II uMax, Euro Sabre), the X5, and also have a metered non-Tesoro with notch, so here goes anyway ...
First and foremost, if you're intent on a Tesoro, I think the Golden pretty much is your machine. BUT -- maybe not, given that what you seem to want to accomplish is entirely accomplishable (is that an actual word?) with your X2.
As JB indicates in his post, simply notching out everything else below silver with any detector (metered or not) and cherrypicking that way won't necessarily give you a *true* idea whether your high-trash dirt holds any silver. That's because there's a whole ton of silver out there that rings in considerably lower than dime disc even with non-metered machines as excellent as the X5. Good examples of this are those ancient 3-cent pieces and small jewelry-related silver stuff like small thin rings or small thin religious medallions.
And on top of that, there's also the entirely different but still related subject of target masking and ferrite masking that even some of the most expensive notch and TID detectors can't deal with well or at all. I'm a high-disc cherrypicker from way back, but if being an incredibly *efficient and successful* cherrypicker is your goal, you'll still end up hunting notched in the pull tab range or lower. The trick there is to find the places off the beaten path (like old homesteads and such in the woods) where pull tabs are somewhat rare. But even there, you're going to get horned in higher notch a zillion times by large(r) iron.
So any possible way you look at it, you're still going to end up digging a whole lot of crap you don't want anyway no matter where you go, and if you do nothing but notch or disc really high even with your machine set on full-out sensitivity (which also makes things worse, not better), you're 100% sure to end up walking over a LOT of really good stuff. That's the nature of available detector technology since nobody's yet come even close to inventing the perfect machine.
Otherwise, if cherrypicking silver or clad dimes and quarters is what you mostly like to do (which is what I like to do a lot of times when I only have an hour for detecting and have to settle for quantity instead of quality), you don't even need to be looking at a Golden since your X2 (and even an X3 or an X5) will do that perfectly fine, except you'll be digging tons of Snapple and wine/booze bottle caps in modern high-trash parks that ring and size-out in pinpointing as quarters and halves.
BTW, I'm far from uninformed, but what we do is still and all a hobby just like the rest of 'em <img src="/metal/html/wink.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=";)">
Scott
 
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