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Golden uMax performance - good, great?

mike5853

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So I sold my Etrac and picked up a Compadre which is an outstanding md, and now thinking about the Golden uMax. Any comments on the depth, and over all performance? I think having a Compadre, Vaquero and Golden would pretty much cover my md needs, and if the functionality / performance of the Golden is as good as the Vaquero and Compadre. . .
 
I have the Royal Sabre-which is sorta similar. Some areas it's just nice and fast to have an ID machine. Some areas it's better to just have a beep-dig. Most people-me included -think they have the stamina and determination to dig pulltabs, but it's just like everything else-you can quickly get tired and in bad weather very uncomfortable. And you can still dig every target like a beep-dig machine in the tone mode.
 
Mike, I just got mine as you probably saw in my earlier post. I'm not sure about the depth, because all of my finds on Saturday were just a few inches down since the place wasn't that old. The performance is outstanding in my opinion. I also have a Safari that I'm wondering if I should sell it or not.
I like watching you Youtube videos BTW.
 
slingshot said:
I have the Royal Sabre-which is sorta similar. Some areas it's just nice and fast to have an ID machine. Some areas it's better to just have a beep-dig. Most people-me included -think they have the stamina and determination to dig pulltabs, but it's just like everything else-you can quickly get tired and in bad weather very uncomfortable. And you can still dig every target like a beep-dig machine in the tone mode.

That's the main reason I sold my other target ID md's. I found I was not digging nearly as much. I found 10 times more jewelry with my Vaquero then any of my other md's which all had nice displays with a lot of info. I started letting the md make the call whether to dig or not to dig. With that said, in certain conditions I think the GuM would be a nice addition.
Decisions, decisions. . .
 
Get the Golden. You will find more gold with less digging. In trashy parks and sports fields I set the discrimination just high enough to notch out those foil drink caps and set the notch width just before it reaches nickels. The ID numbers on my Gold Bug are 50 to 58. With that setting I dig all beeps without having to stop and think about. I just dig. I got a good shot at finding gold rings with that setting while I'm loading my pockets with silver rings and coins. In clean parks and fields, I don't notch anything out and dig all good repeatable beeps.

I understand exactly what you're saying. I don't like standing there and thinking about should I dig that target ID number or not. With the Golden, you dig every good beep once you decide on a setting. Just dig!

tabman
 
hi mike
i have the golden & csc & its a killer on coins & jewelry but im having a moment too & thinking about trading it for a vaquero
hows the vaquero handle rusty bottle caps ?
some 1 talk me out of this :crylol:
the golden is a ring magnet hows the vaquero on gold jewelry?
 
I think you pretty much have all your bases covered with the Compadre and the Vaquero. Like Wltdwiz, I use the Golden with the CSC exclusively and can't comment on the depth of the stock coil. I have used the 9x8 on the Cortes and figure the Golden would be an inch or two shy of what you could get with the Vaquero.

Wltdwiz - Unless the rusty bottle caps are right on the surface you can usually tell they are junk with the CSC. They will usually pinpoint off about 1-2 inches at 90 degrees. A coin will pinpoint at the same spot from 90 degrees. As far as getting a Vaquero goes, I have seen a Tejon with a CSC and it gets a solid 8" on most coins. Pretty darn good!
 
Mike,

I know how you feel about the golden, I kinda want one too. But I just think my next one should have GB. But I might be scared to use the notch and lose some good stuff.

I think the golden with HOT and GB would be awesome!,, dreaming.

Mike
 
I don't know about where you hunt, but there are some places around here I hunt that have tens of thousands of pry caps, screw caps and pull tabs mixed in with a good dose of can slaw and other trash. It would take me the rest of your life and then some to dig all those iffy targets to make sure I didn't miss something good. There are places where using the notch is a big plus and there are places where it should not be used. I average digging around 150 to 200 targets per hunt. There are more targets around here than I have time to dig, so I'm just going to let the Golden find me the best targets to dig in those really trashy locations.

tabman
 
tabman said:
I don't know about where you hunt, but there are some places around here I hunt that have tens of thousands of pry caps, screw caps and pull tabs mixed in with a good dose of can slaw and other trash. It would take me the rest of your life and then some to dig all those iffy targets to make sure I didn't miss something good. There are places where using the notch is a big plus and there are places where it should not be used. I average digging around 150 to 200 targets per hunt. There are more targets around here than I have time to dig, so I'm just going to let the Golden find me the best targets to dig in those really trashy locations.

tabman

Hey
Yea thats what I'm thinking. It seems the same item, pull or beaver tail, will dominate an area of a park. I mean like 90% of the trash I dig is made up of the same item. This is where I think I can save time by using a Golden.
 
You are dead right Tabman. The best part of the golden is it has the notch option, and you can choose to use it or not. Great points.

Mike
 
Mike, trust me. The Golden will become your favorite modern park detector. Your biggest decision will be choosing between the old tone version or the new tone version.

tabman
 
mike5853 said:
tabman said:
I don't know about where you hunt, but there are some places around here I hunt that have tens of thousands of pry caps, screw caps and pull tabs mixed in with a good dose of can slaw and other trash. It would take me the rest of your life and then some to dig all those iffy targets to make sure I didn't miss something good. There are places where using the notch is a big plus and there are places where it should not be used. I average digging around 150 to 200 targets per hunt. There are more targets around here than I have time to dig, so I'm just going to let the Golden find me the best targets to dig in those really trashy locations.

tabman

Hey
Yea thats what I'm thinking. It seems the same item, pull or beaver tail, will dominate an area of a park. I mean like 90% of the trash I dig is made up of the same item. This is where I think I can save time by using a Golden.
The beaver tail and sta-tabs fall right at nickel. I could notch it out with my Royal and get SOME nickels-but it's a risky thing. Foil and nickels are TWO areas where rings fall, whereas tabs is one area. But you can just use the tone feature and use the size and signal strength to decide whether to dig a tab or foil signal.
 
Clad to be here said:
Mike, I just got mine as you probably saw in my earlier post. I'm not sure about the depth, because all of my finds on Saturday were just a few inches down since the place wasn't that old. The performance is outstanding in my opinion. I also have a Safari that I'm wondering if I should sell it or not.
I like watching you Youtube videos BTW.

Thanks for the feedback. As far as depth, I'd like to get at least 6 inches on a dime. I like the idea of having a good TID md for really trashy areas in some of the parks I hunt but thank God most of the areas I hunt have a very low trash to treasure ratio.
 
slingshot said:
mike5853 said:
tabman said:
I don't know about where you hunt, but there are some places around here I hunt that have tens of thousands of pry caps, screw caps and pull tabs mixed in with a good dose of can slaw and other trash. It would take me the rest of your life and then some to dig all those iffy targets to make sure I didn't miss something good. There are places where using the notch is a big plus and there are places where it should not be used. I average digging around 150 to 200 targets per hunt. There are more targets around here than I have time to dig, so I'm just going to let the Golden find me the best targets to dig in those really trashy locations.

tabman

Hey
Yea thats what I'm thinking. It seems the same item, pull or beaver tail, will dominate an area of a park. I mean like 90% of the trash I dig is made up of the same item. This is where I think I can save time by using a Golden.
The beaver tail and sta-tabs fall right at nickel. I could notch it out with my Royal and get SOME nickels-but it's a risky thing. Foil and nickels are TWO areas where rings fall, whereas tabs is one area. But you can just use the tone feature and use the size and signal strength to decide whether to dig a tab or foil signal.

Good tip - thanks.
 
The way my Golden with the stock coil is set right now:

Gone are: bottle caps, some pull tabs, most foil, almost all metal junk (wire, etc.) and zinc pennies.

Remaining are: copper pennies, silver and clad coins, gold jewelry over 1 gram in weight (at least that's the air test is telling me), can slaw, crushed aluminum cans, some pull tabs, all beaver tails (no way to get rid of those), some foil (but I'm sensing those better now), and silver jewelry.

That with the Wide Notch setting and the knob at about 12:00.

It is a great setup for me.
 
You shouldn't expect the same depth from a detector with pre-set ground balance as you would get with one which you can manually balance to the ground when and where you use it...having said that, I love the Golden, and am having a ball using mine in conjunction with a couple of my other detectors. Its ease of use and audio ID are a delight...then you have Disc. and notch if you want to use them. I just hope that no-one else near where I live gets one.
 
Mike,

I own a Vaquero and a new Golden Umax. Doing air tests the Golden is maybe (at most) an inch shy of the Vaquero with both set at 10 on sensitivity. The Golden has a major flaw and that is the notch control. When I use a large mans ring composed of both 14K and 18K gold, or a 1/4OZ golden eagle coin and I use the notch control either wide or narrow I can't detect the ring or coin no matter where I have the notch width dial set. If I test this using a 10K gold ring I can set the notch to detect a nickle and the ring and not the pull tab. WOW! I hate finding gold greater than 10K - NOT! Either I have a bad machine, or I doing something wrong, or Tesoro is doing some false advertising on this machine. I end up NOT using the notch and listening to the tones, and that's great if you just want to get coins minus nickles, but if you want nickles and gold you will be digging pull tabs also because they have the same tone. If anyone knows what I am doing wrong please let me know. So at this point I rate this machine as good not great. If I have time and there is interest I can post a video.
 
Smudge, I believe you can notch out broken off beaver tails when the Threshold is turned counter clockwise and maybe turning the Notch knob fully counter clock wise too.
 
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