gold rings and the explorer II

[Big Boys Hobbies]

Ive been doing some self taught experimenting with gold rings and pull tabs. It seems with the limited gold rings my wife has to borrow seem to hit lower (on average) on the smart screen an most pull tabs i have. Seems nickles are hitting just barely above gold rings and pull tabs higher than that. I know not ALWAYS this is true but is anyone finding the same results i am?

I am mainly a coin hunter but with the down time i have recovering from a torn ac joint shoulder surgery i have nothing better to do than experiment. TV gets old real quick.

Thanks for any and all help in advance!!

 

[Ralph Bryant]

Most all small and thin karat gold rings tend to I.D. in the nickel range or lower, closer to foil than to pull-tabs. Alot of ring hunters will notch out pull-tab range and higher coin targets just for this reason, and if they are digging nothing but nickels and foil, consider that to be a good sign that they are within the smaller gold ring range. When you stop and think about it, the greatest majority of gold rings (by far) are smaller and thinner womens rings, so your odds of finding one of those is relatively higher than a larger mans ring. Narrowing your acceptance range to that particular area in effect increases your odds of finding the gold rings and saves you the hassles of digging most of the pull tabs and other aluminum trash.

Just a thought.

Ralph

 

[Big Boys Hobbies]

THANKS Ralph!

That was the response I was getting too. I'll try to "borrow" a few more rings to test to conclude my findings. Seems gold rings hit the lowest nickels a bit higher and tabs a bit higher than that. Rings seem to be audibly lower tone than both of the other too.

 

[Grubstake]

My wife has about 50 different gold rings, some with stones, some without, And about the same number in siler. I blanked the screen, and first scan accepted the gold rings, they hit all over the screen. Then I did the silver, they mostly hit up on the right at the top side of the screen. Now I have a custom patern for just rings, although I'm sure some trash will fall in to there range. I'm going to try the program on Monterey beach on Christmas and see. Grubstake

 

[Ralph Bryant]

You've brought up a good point regarding trying to use gold ring accept to program for jewelry hunting. Look at all of those open areas amongst the accept points of the gold rings, and remember that most gold rings are produced from alloys of gold, copper, zinc, nickel, and various other alloying metals. Even the slightest variation in the alloying process could easily move one of those accepted targets into one of the open areas. If we could take a couple of thousand different mens and ladies rings and do the same thing, I think we'd see the accept range pretty much filled up from the thinnest and smallest ladies ring to the largest mens gold ring. I tend to be more of the opinion that a better gold ring program would be to accept the full range, and then reject the more commonly occuring trash targets (tabs, screw caps, gum wrapper foil, etc.). There is just so much overlap through this range that "dig it all" may still get the best results where gold jewelry is concerned.

Just a thought......

Ralph

 

[Grubstake]

I think your prob. right, I'm use to useing a soverine, and can pretty much tell from the tone, but the Exploreer 2 is a bit different on the tones. I don't have much hope that the screen is going to help alot, but it may. I still have my soverine, its one of the first ones out, and works like a charm. If I don't like this Explorer 2, I will be looking to trade it for an Excallibur. I had one of those also, but someone stold it about 5 years ago. I hope there enjoying it, it was my most used machine. I have one screen that is whited out completely, to accept all and anything, so if this ring program does not do it for me, that the way I'll go. Thanks Ralph. Grubstake

 

[Garry( Australia )]

Hello all,
Would like to share some of these readings that I came across in a magazine here in Australia. This fellow owned an EX2 and scanned every pulltab and gold ring he could get his hands on, plus I've added a few in these readings myself. The larger rings had a higher conductive reading with a slight reduction in ferrous compared to smaller ladies rings which had a lower conductive reading with a slightly higher ferrous reading.
The article said that gold chains are notoriously difficult to detect and that any sort signal in the 00-00 could likely be a small gold item. or at times a badly rusted crown cap will read in this area but they are not as much of a problem as the pulltabs, and leaving this area open can result in more gold finds.
Unfortunately if you think we can reject pulltabs then we will definitely miss out on gold. So as a rule I dig all pulltabs and hopefully gold will be found. Maybe Minelab will solve this problem in time.

t=Pulltabs g=Gold cc=crown caps dc=Australian decimal coin
Hopefully this information applies to you in the US.

Regards Garry

 

[Ralph Bryant]

Garry,

That is a great spread chart ! I've often thought about the possibilities of doing something along this line, and have friends who run pawn shops that might be willing to let me use their stocks of gold rings and scrap gold jewelry to make a similar graph for acceptance-range gold targets.

The only thing I see that might skew the results would be the ground condition itself, since the mineralization level can move the "apparent conductivity" from its actual "in-air" value. And like you say, you have to dig the tabs to be sure of the gold. But such a program would still narrow the odds considerably I would think.

Something else that might be worth consideration is the fact that the larger majority of rings produced in the jewelry industry, and therefore having the beter odds of being lost, are the smaller and thinner women's rings that usually tend to fall below the tabs range and more into the foil range. Maybe concentrating in this area instead of the full gold range would narrow the odds of finding gold jewelry even more ?

Just a couple of thoughts.....

Ralph

 

[Garry( Australia )]

Hi Ralph,
It true with what you say, that in the ground mineralization could skew the the results, I have dug many targets in the lower negative readings and in the air test now read a positive reading that is why I now run in IM-16 but when I can't take the nagging any longer I use a saved pattern.
You may be right, thinner women's rings that usually tend to fall below the tabs range and more into the foil range. I did a few more tests and found that most of the rings that really matters ladies diamond rings read a ferrous number 10 and 11 and the majority of tabs had a ferrous reading of 8 so there maybe some light at the end of the tunnel.
Thanks for your reply.

PS. I still worry missing gold

 

[smt57]

I agree, I have had a real problem in the past finding jewelry.
lately I have accepting everything up to most pulltabs including
foil and have found some jewelry and a lot of nickles I know that I'm passing up a lot of things but I have a real problem digging pulltabs all day.