GOLD COIN?? Can you help me ID?

[brianc577]

This coin was dug at a House site in Central Va that predates the Civil War. It came out of the ground with no tarnish or Patina like Gold but I have not been able to get any help with its ID. It is the size of a nickel but about twice as thick.

Thank you for any help!!!!!

 

[curlysgold]

Could you post a higher quality photo? Could you also weigh it? It's appears Spanish I cannot make out any of the details. :/

 

[mudpuppy]

What does it sound like on your detector?

 

[curlysgold]

http://www.newworldtreasures.com/gold-cobs.htm

Check the date on the reverse and you'll be able to identify it

 

[brianc577]

There are no visible numbers, can you tell the orgin?

 

[Larry (IL)]

There is probably not any dates on them, the design on the back should match up with the ruler at the time. It sure looks like a 2 escudos from the late 1500's to early1600's.

Congratulations on a great find.

 

[curlysgold]

If I had to bet I'd say it's from Spain. Colonial era. How about those higher def pics?

 

[brianc577]

I am trying on the pics, my camera has each picture at 8.92 KB's and the site will not allow over 4.02 KB's. I will keep trying, I am really anxious to find out about this item. Thank you--BAC

 

[brianc577]

Here is another pic, I have to compress them to upload them but I hope you can blow them up some on your end. Thank you for any help

 

[Larry (IL)]

My biggest concern is the color is not right in your pictures for gold, have you tested it? What detector do you use and does it ID as gold? There are a LOT of fakes out there.

 

[407floyd]

Beware of the fake Spanish Doubloons! This is one that I found back in the 1970s. A coin dealer set me straight.

 

[PowerDetecting]

Just take a high res picture then use photobucket and use crop to cut out extra size. The color looks a little off and it looks in too good of shape but if it is gold you have a high dollar coin there bud. I see on that second pic it looks like it is rubbed down at the top and it still has the gold color to it. So just maybe you struck it big. GL HH

 

[Aarong81]

This is the closest match on the site provided by Curlysgold.....Its the next to last coin on the page.
http://www.newworldtreasures.com/images/7262.jpg

2 Escudos - Mesuno Hoard Item#: 7262
Denomination: 2 Escudos
Mint: Bogot

 

[The Nutty Teacher]

Hello Sir,

There are some distinct possibilities. Weight in grams is important. Exact dimensions are also important.
Include diameter and thickness.

The cross generally limits the coin to a Christian culture.

Are there any letters around the obverse? If there are, could you print them out reading in a clockwise
rotation in a straight line from left to right starting at about 8:00 O'clock & reading to about 4:00 0'clock?

A larger picture would be of significant help.

What precisely is at the four ends of the cross?

What are the symbols inside the four quadrants of the cross?

Jetons often had a cross on one side with symbols inside the quadrants of the cross..

If there aren't any letters words or numbers, it could be a French, German or English Jeton.

Jetons also often had words around one side.

Common jetons weren't usually gold or silver.

There were coin copies, forgeries, struck as early as the ancient Greek periods. Many Roman fakes
were struck by Europeans, even though the Romans struck legitimate coins as far north as England,
Germany, & Austria.

Respectfully,

The Nutty Teacher

 

[The Nutty Teacher]

Good shot Aaron. That looks close to me, based upon the original pictures provided.

The Nutty Teacher

 

[brianc577]

I think I finally got it!! Here are some better pics

 

[brianc577]

Here are some better pics--Thank you everyone for any help!!!!!!

 

[brianc577]

Thank you for everyones help, it appears it is a period counterfiet. It does contain gold, but not enough--BAC

 

[Aarong81]

If its a period counterfeit wasn't it made during the same time as the real coins were being used? That would make this really old. Seems like a period counterfeit is almost as good as the real thing....almost. Cool find!