hi steeliecop. i think i have a kind of unusual way of securing permission to detect someone's land. everybody that i know or meet, within the first two minutes of our conversation, will know for certain that i like to metal detect and would be interested in any leads on some new spots they may know of. you'd be surprised! the guy behind me in the checkout line... the waitress at the restaurant... my boss at work... even cops! i do tend to come off a bit nonchalant, i think it helps solidify the curiosity in their minds of what's in the ground at their grandparent's 25 acre farm! i very quickly add that i don't make any messes, and cover all of my holes, and ask them, "how can you hurt the ground like that? i do this because i love history. i already know i'll never get rich doing this." the gray ghost spiel works great for me. i am rarely turned down, and even if i am turned down, i think back to the old aesop's fable about the fox trying in vain to reach the grapes - after a while, he gives up, saying, "they're probably sour anyway."
ask everybody you know. people talk, and word carries, steeliecop. word of mouth and a good rep for filling your holes back in and generally respecting the landowner's rights will get you far in this hobby. one door can open many; but one door can also close many. as long as you come across as sincere and interested, you'll have no trouble. you have to be confident. so what if you get a couple of turndowns? there's zillions of acres out there! some people can't be swayed no matter what you say or do. all they can say is no, right? there's plenty of other places to go.
i only throw the "share the finds" thing in if i think i'm in for a hard sale. most of the time, our finds are not very valuable, and the landowner knows this. quite often, it's only when a very valuable item is found, or one of high sentimental value is found, that the landowner wants it anyway. in that case, i'd gladly give or split. i don't like knocking on doors either, but i will! in a minute! be confident, and sincere, and good luck to you! hh!