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GB at 10 Sen. tooo much falsing......

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I did my GB at 10 and then I finially ended up at 4 because of too many fasle signals. At 4 it runs quiet until i hit a target. I tried to increase it back up to 10 Sen, but at 6 Sen. it started fasling again.
HH WyDiablo
 
I'm afraid you have grossly misunderstood the relationship between Ground Balancing and sensitivity. Of course your machine will false if you run it at sensitivity of 10. And it WILL hunt quietly at 4 with no falsing. If you ARE able to run the sensitivity at a higher setting, say 6 for example, that's fine. But the conditions need to be right. If you're talking about a CZ-70, there is little chance you will be able to run it above sens 4 without falsing, except in the cleanest of ground. And you will get about 95% of you max possible depth at that setting anyway.
Now as for the Ground Balancing...you are supposed to set the volume at 10 and the sensitivity at 10 when you do the ground balance procedure. You aren't supposed to LEAVE it there when you hunt. You're supposed to set the sensitivity back down to what works for your area you are hunting at the time and the volume to where you want it. Going up to 10 is ONLY for while you are actually doing the ground balancing. That seems to be the part you didn't get.
Let me tell you the way that most experienced CZ users do it. We use "The Bobbing Method". The procedure in the book is weak and not well written. If you want to do it right, do it like I describe below. I this wrote this in a post on this forum a year or so ago. Hope it helps.
<STRONG>The Bobbing Method of Ground Balancing:</STRONG>
<FONT COLOR="#ff0000"><STRONG>Note: Use headphones to do this
 
Would advise all that are having problems to make a copy to further help those having problems. Never saw so many problems in ground balancing and like you feel the wording in the manual was written by a Tech. or perhaps an experienced detectorists and would sound confusing to a newbie or at least a newbie to a CZ.Indeed proper ground balance gives you more depth and a more stable unit and lets hope this post alleviates any problems for those confused.Us olbies started out with 10 turn gound balances so in reallity a 1 turn allows us to bob several times and be on our way. As far as Sensitivty goes never encountred one where a machine could be run at Max so indeed a sens. of 10 is too high and a sens. of 4 or 6 may be more in the ballpark depending on your area. I remember when you went to the CZ70 from a Minelab Sov. and have to congragulate you as in a relativity short time have mastered the unit and are giving excellent help to those in need...
 
Hi Mike
I agree with Dan PA.
Your post not only does an excelent job on the ground balance setup for a cz it does an excelent job on the setup for optimum use of a cz's power and accuracy including sensitivity control setpoints.
Unless someone is illiterate its sure is an easy complete setup explanation for the cz.
I remember reading it quite a while ago.
HH
Dan R.
 
Glad to be able to add a little help when I can. Dan-PA, I've gotten as much insight from you over the years as from anybody.
As for the ability to put things into words a little better in explaining the GB, a few have suggested I show it to Fisher. I did and they came back and said <STRONG>"Thanks for your interest and help, we will be forwarding your stuff to our technical...blah, blah..."</STRONG> so who knows? Maybe in some future manual we'll see it. <img src="/metal/html/shrug.gif" border=0 width=37 height=15 alt=":shrug">
HH! On my way to the beach in a few. Nice storm last night!
 
Good luck Mike( you have the best of two worlds) beaches and inland old areas..Heck I started with the pushbutton first method in 92 and was advised by my dealer bobbing was more accurate..Still remember the bobbing method which hasn't changed in the manual and even after using 10 turn said HUH myself as one has to read it several times. Cost prohibitive to change so fellows make up a copy of Mikes...
 
Should be mandatory training, first day of class, CZ 101!
w
 
using the bobbing method.Almost anyone should be able to follow your easy to use description of GBing the CZ detector.And i must also say that DAN-PA has been an inspiration to me on the insights of the CZ detector.I've had a CZ5 about 3 yrs now and no matter which other detectors i use, if the CZ doesn't scan the ground i wonder what deepies i missed. HH Bill
 
I tried gr balancing my CZ-70 both ways and it usaully seems to be the exact same setting when I,m done. What gives?
 
Well, nobody is saying that either way is right or wrong. Both work. But depending on the conditions, the bobbing method COULD give you a better GB. Maybe, maybe not. I think it's more a matter of preference for me. Doing the bob takes about 30 seconds and I'm on my way. To be honest, it's the only way I've ever done it. Everybody said it was the better way, so I learned to do it that way and never looked back. So I don't doubt your statement but I have no personal experience with comparing them with one another.
 
Thanks. Just trying to get the best performance out of my new CZ-70. I learn something new everyday I use it.
 
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