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Garrett coinhunter featherweight push button top controls

Anyone in the world beside Garrett got a schematic for this one? a hand drawn would be fine. Garrett wont let schematics out. would like to get the old job working. looks good, something simple i know to fix, probably cold solder connection, but would like the diagram. it is a15khz, with the optional twin circuit 10.5 coil. father to the Groundhog, and as i understand, same circuits. any help appreciated.
 
well the battery compartment is good to contacts. not much of a tech, but found old friend thats an old ham guy, and old detectorist. he is benching it for me. thats what he said do also. sprayed out the pots several times with de-ox stuff. not dripping rust or anything. got to be a solder connection somewhere. machine looks too good except a little cracked corner on the meter. if need caps or resistors, will radio shack have them, or do you have an online sight you go to?
 
dixiedigger57 said:
well the battery compartment is good to contacts. not much of a tech, but found old friend thats an old ham guy, and old detectorist. he is benching it for me. thats what he said do also. sprayed out the pots several times with de-ox stuff. not dripping rust or anything. got to be a solder connection somewhere. machine looks too good except a little cracked corner on the meter. if need caps or resistors, will radio shack have them, or do you have an online sight you go to?

Google
Allied Electronics
Mouser
Digikey
Jameco

Radio Shack really doesn't carry anything anymore.
 
Just what is it doing wrong?

You might look at the Garrett patents so see if any one of those matches or comes close to your detector in design. You can find various patents at the Geotech1 website. I am not sure a link would be ok here but you can email me for a link.

I am not sure just which model you have. Can you post a pic?

Now, one thing I look for is leaking caps. There will be what appears as dried liquid on the pc board around a bad cap. Also, look for bulging ones. Usually, they will bulge at the bottom.

Next look at the IC's. If they are 8 pin dips, then they will usually be either singe or dual units. If a number is on them, then look up the part and check the power supply pins. Normally, they will be pin 4 for the - voltage and pin 8 or 7 for the + voltage. Pins 2 and 3 are usually inputs and on the dual units 5 and 6 are also inputs. Sometimes one can see signals with an old analog meter, but a scope is much better.

Take a cheap pocket radio and turn it on, turn it off channel and make sure it is on AM and then place the radio near the coil. Usually, you will get a loud buzzing if the transmit circuitry is working. If it isn't working, check the power supplies first. This can be done by checking the battery connections, then the wiring at the board where the batteries connect and finally tracing to circuitry normally used for a power supply. Quite often a zener diode is a dead giveaway.

If you are not sure or unsteady, it is best you leave even the testing to someone more knowledgeable such as Keith Wills at Broken detectors in Texas. It is easy to make things worse.

If I had time I would look at it for you but right now, that isn't possible.

Be extremely careful when checking or replacing parts. I always use a professional desoldering tool (the type with a electrical vacuum pump to assure a clean removal of solder) and a grounded soldering pencil to eliminate any possible destruction from static. It is all too easy to blow a cmos chip using the wrong equipment. A friend of mine can attest to that. Also, if I change an IC I always install a quality socket. This way any future replacements will not require soldering equipment.

Reg
 
Thanks guys for all the info. it's past me now, time to turn it over to a pro. i know the the old girl was a good one in her day, it was actually the first groundhog, had that on the coil that come with it originally. this is an optional coil. Brad at garrett said they still service them. time to ship it out. will save info from you guys and thanks again.
 
I have a schematic and source for parts if you still need anything. All the components, even the IC's are still available. The schematic is for the 5.5kHz machine, but the circuit is identical (except for several component values) to the 15 kHz groundhog.
Roger
 
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