Gain settings....

[Dan-Pa.]

I have learned lowering your gain can acomplish two things...it creates a modulated effect and you can tell a shallow coin from the get go especially if your after deep silver and also gain and sens. must be tied in as lower gain equates to allow you to run high sens. which in turn gives you more depth..Works in my neck of the woods and of course your area may differ...

 

[digitrich]

n/t

 

[mtpockets]

Dan,

What are you setting your gain at? Just wondering what your settings may be...

 

[digitrich]

Anything over 6 on my SE and you cant tell deep targets from shallow, and it starts calling nails silver.

 

[Dan-Pa.]

Usually run at 6 but I know some guys in different States run it a little higher with excellent results...

 

[captainbottletop]

I dont think gain and sensitivity are linked in the way you say , gain is just a sort of volume control to make the volume sound louder. Having done a few tests on a coin test bed i have come to the conclusion gain has no effect on depth whatsoever. And neither does sensitivity belive it or not. Both sensitivity and gain only make lower amplitude signals sound a little louder , not 1 cm of depth can be gained from having sensitivity and gain turned up , i know this sounds wrong and no one will believe me but its true.
GAIN AND SENSITIVITY DO NOTHING TO DETECT DEEPER.
THEY SIMPLY MAKE A SIGNAL SOUND A BIT LOUDER.

 

[digitrich]

At the risk of sounding not very sensitive and not very deep... "ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FLIPPING MIND"???? Gain amplifies sound, but if you think sensitivity does not effect depth you are plainly mistaken. Try that theory out in an air test or a test garden and get back to us. It may seem that higher sensitivity is just increasing your signals volume however it is actually increasing the distance a signal can be detected and therefore given a louder report. Example.. the difference of a five inch coil compared to a ten inch, the signal volume is not becoming louder, the signal is just becoming stronger because the larger coil just goes deeper. In general, a higher STABLE sensitivity is going to produce better depth, period. In your test garden you may have some outside influences of soil mineralization, iron masking, electrical interference and or your own correct or incorrect coil technique, over discrimination etc etc etc. You are hereby asked to no longer watch poorly acted, overly dramatic soap operas or made for TV mini series as they obviously are contributing to your making an incredible, outlandish statement and then forgetting the explanation of your so ambitious findings, like a 1000 word dissertation would help, well maybe not with the statement "sensitivity doesn't effect depth"

 

[Dan-Pa.]

Me thinks your trying to start a discussion or debate and personally feel Digitrich offers a better opinion. Think about it my man even if it just made a signal sound louder of course you would hear those deepies better and perhaps not miss them thus equating to more depth..
Certainly no electronic wizard but have done some testing myself and heres the drill turn down gain to about 6 as it will allow you to run sensitivity higher which equates to more depth.Also it will give signal a modulated effect telling deep from shallow right from the get go and to me lets me differentiate iron high pitch from silver coin high pitch better..Of course all areas differ, other settings have an effect and of course we all have our opinions. Feel free to jump in guys with your opinions...

 

[JHM]

If it amplifies weaker sounding signals then would it not not cause you to find a deeper coin that you would otherwise not hear?

 

[Schultzie]

As stated on the other forum, this is a bit deceiving as its being explained. What I'm getting out of this is: The Explorer is only electronically capable of detecting "X" amount of inches (say 10") and does that continuously at all times. Targets at 10" may have a weaker signal that may not be heard but is detected by the machine. Gain & Sensitivity settings effect the quality of the processed signal at greater depths... meaning targets at 10" will be heard with greater clarity with the increased/higher settings. I am of the frame of mind that increased clarity at 10" equates to increased depth of targets being dug.

As Dan stated, he's found that setting the Gain a bit lower gives an indication of the depth of the target signal by means of modulation effect. This may be a desired effect by some to aide in target indentification based on how deep it is. Thanks for your input Dan.

 

[jimp]

and i will say that where I hunt there is a group of guys that ran their sensitivity wide open insisting that they would loose depth if they didn't. I hunt along side of them and never have I ran more than 22 semi-auto and kick their behinds every time out. I think that if the person really knows this machine that they would not need to max out settings to get maximum depth. The guys that I hunt with had explorers 2 to 3 years before I got mine and at 22 semi with gain at 7 I always come home on top. In fact I can and have done a number on the at 16 long before I went to 22.

 

[Steve(MS)]

The gain and sens are adjustments that do matter but there are successful hunters that use diff. combinations of them so it amounts to use what works best for you, that way you can be happy with what the settings are.
I have noticed that running the sens too high and the tones started sounding distorted, maybe staying away from the extremes would be
"Sensible"