G2/GB pro on silver??

[cuzzi25]

I'm really interested in the G2 but have a couple concerns. Since it runs on a high freq does it have trouble with silver coins 5-8" down. Also, how is it with coin shooting in general? I'll be using it mostly in parks/sports fields sifting through pull tabs to try & find jewelry. I'm pretty sure it'll excel with that, just wondering how it'll fare when taken into old sites & woods in search of old coins.

Thanks

 

[godigit1]

You will not be disappointed with its performance on coins in general. As long as there is no masking happening you can expect to clean everything out to the 8" level and deeper in the right scenarios.
I use GB for exactly what you want to do and micro jewelry hunting is where these machine do there best. I hit both very small silver as well as gold and contrary to some reports the 11dd will even get earring backs and studs I have pulled many from volleyball courts and tot lots other detectors miss. We have one Etty bitty little park in town that goes back to the 1880s and its been hit every which way by every machine.(and by me too.) Some how I manage to pull good stuff out with the bug. My oldest coin came from there a shield nickel and just two days ago took out the new 5x10 coil to give it a try at the park and I was able to work so close to re-bar impregnated concrete that amidst the constant 41 vdi of the re-bar a jumpy Vdi hit in one direction 58- 85 and in the other 89-58 I was sweeping the edge of the cement with the coil at a 45* angle using the less sensitive part of the edge. Turned out to be a 52 nickel and a 37 merc 2 1/2" apart and 1 1/2 inches from the edge of the concrete, both only three inches down and I know I swept that spot at least two times before. The new 5x10 takes it to a new level, I can separate targets 3/4 of a inch apart and get good vdi.
For jewelry hunting once you learn this machine and are willing to dig allot of foil and tab range signals.

Hope this helped!
HH

 

[Ant]

I wish someone would video a 7" inch coin being recovered. I mean like showing the coin at the bottom of a 7 inch plug.
The Old GB2 is weak on silver because it is a dedicated gold machine, but it will find silver and silver coins. The old GB2 is rated at 71 kHz, the new Gold Bug Pro is rated at 19 kHz and seemingly will have more depth and more sensitivity to silver, and I'm guessing it will have less sensitivity to small gold.

 

[sgoss66]

Ant -- I hit 8" deep silver in my test garden. I don't have a video of a 7" recovery, but I guarantee that, at least in MOST types of soil, a 7" coin is NO PROBLEM. And I mean NO PROBLEM.

I buried 24 coins in my test garden a year ago, both silver and clad -- measured with a tape measure. I have 6" coins, and 8" coins -- no 7", but I can hit both the 6" and 8" coins with the Bug. The 6" coins are EASY; the 8" dimes and pennies are also easy targets, when the soil is damp. When the soil is VERY dry, as in drought conditions, the 8" dime/penny is a bit less consistent in disc. mode, a little more "iffy," but still an easy target in all-metals mode. The 8" quarters are easily seen in wet OR dry soil. I don't know if this helps you or not, but these are measured depths, in moderate soil.

I will make a statement here, that I will stand behind 100%, and it will probably shock alot of people, but it's 100% true, based on my experience. My main "deep coin hunting" machine is a Minelab Explorer; as an owner of both, I have arrived, through testing and experience, at the conclusion that the Gold Bug Pro is just as deep -- let me repeat that, JUST AS DEEP, on coins, as my Explorer is, in my soil. In my test garden, the coins are buried at 2-inch increments from 6" to 12". There is NOT A COIN, in that garden, that the Explorer will hit, that the Gold Bug Pro will not. While I prefer the Explorer when I'm purely coin hunting, for a few reasons, I believe the Gold Bug Pro is a WAY UNDERRATED machine, in terms of being a coin shooter; it is just as deep, and IDs nearly as well with depth, as any other machine I've tested, in my ground conditions.

Steve

 

[Terry(Mi)]

The G2 is highly underrated for a coin hunting unit... It will hit the 5-8" dimes in my soil, the tone is soft and narrower. Sweep speed becomes key when searching trash-laden sites, if u swing to fast you"ll blow right over them. Make sure you get a good set of phones, u need to hear the language, as vdi is sometimes "off" when hunting in around alot of aluminum can slaw(sometimes iron too) The vdi can be worked up most often, but not always if the adjacent targets are too close. You should have no problems running in old sites scattered with iron, this is where the G2 will shine.
Working in existing parks thru the tabs and foil is tough, there's ALOT of audio going on. stick with going low & slow and find the softer(rounder) repeatable signals. Break point is selectable, if you can handle it try to stay under 44 in parks and under 30 in the old iron sites..... good luck

 

[acasto]

Ant
Are you getting less depth with your GB Pro? Maybe it needs a trip to the shop for repairs.
Mine has no problem going deep for the coins.
What kind of depth are you getting?
What kind of soil is in your area?
I'm sure some of the nice folks here can help you figure out whats wrong.

HH
Tony

 

[rockpup1]

mine needed some repairs.It works fien now and am getting at least 6-7" on a silver quarter in ground with the 5" coil.The new 5x10 would out do the 5" coil by at least a few inchs and the 11" more.
I would say easy 8" with both the larger coils no sweat.In all metal even deeper.

 

[Ant]

I have a gold bug 2 and a ML SE and I know how to use both and have recovered thousands and thousands of targets over the last 7 years or so, even some deep ones. But it is rare that I find a coin 7 inches deep while hunting in the field. the soil in the field is a completely different than in a coin garden. In the real world the soil matrix that's on the surface is the most mineralize area and needs to be disturbed, kicked or moved away from the taeget to get a clear reading.

IMO if you're looking for coins then any good machine will do as long as the time is taken to learn the tones. There is too much emphasis put on about how deep a machine goes. In the geographic area that I hunt tone and target ID should be more important than depth, that might not be so in different geological area.

 

[deso globaal]

For the test I consegido a silver coin of the United States, One Dime, 1927.
The ground was very wet, it was just after a rain. Although wet ground I do not consider it an advantage. On the contrary, even in some areas when the depth is less humid. But that's another topic.
Turning on the test. The terrain is gentle PHASE GND indication, about 53. Headphones are obligatoriоs. Due to the VCO in depth are very loose. Search Coil DD-11 inches.
Mode discrimination. With the sensitivity limit, the coin is detected in 8 inches. With clear and repeatable signal, although a little straw in volume. Even at 9 inches may notice a very weak signal. In both cases, Target ID 80 -86.
In AM mode with sensitivity close to 100 and very little audible threshold. The coin is detected at 10 inches. In 11 inch there is a change in the threshold, but I could be mistaken for an abnormality in the ground.


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[Ant]

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[acasto]

Ant

Oh, I misunderstood. I thought you were speaking of ACTUAL experience with the GB Pro.

Never mind.

 

[Ant]

That will due, please post a video showing your expertise.
Thanks

 

[sgoss66]

Ant --

I don't take a video camera in the field with me, so I won't be able to help you out with the 7" coin recovery video. I guarantee the Bug can do it, and I have done it myself. Having said that, I agree with you that in many areas, digging a 7" coin IS rare. In my opinion, it's NOT because the machine can't do it, but instead, it's that in my area, in our soil, there simply ARE NOT many coins deeper than achieve depths deeper than 6-7" in most cases (at least, not with some "excavation assistance!" I have dug dozens of coins from the late 1800s and early 1900s...and the vast majority have been 6" deep or less. The deepest few, maybe a handful, have been in the 8" to just under 10" deep range, and were found in softer, fertile dirt, as opposed to the typical dense clay we have here. My point being that if you are not finding coins deeper than 7", there simply may not BE many coins deeper than that in your area; if there were, your Explorer should be able to find them.

Finally, while you are right that a test garden is not "the same" as being "in the field," I will argue that a test garden is a TOUGHER environment; the soil has been disturbed, which in my experience causes both depth-of-detection and ID accuracy to suffer. Thus -- I consider test garden results as "lower end" limits, with respect to the capability of a particular machine to perform in a "real world" environment.

Steve

 

[acasto]

What I don't get is that he's never even used a GB pro or G2, yet he seems to know their limitations based on other machines.
How ridiculous is that?
Machine freq is only part of the issue. What about the electronics and associated programs?

 

[Ken in Georgia]

Look once I get over a 7 inch target I will film it and show you that yes it will and can hit that mark.

 

[kai_gold]

Acasto,

Is is wrong for someone to ask a question about the depth of a detector? I don't know, but perhaps he is interested in trying one to compliment his existing detectors.

I have both the GB2 and Gold Bug Pro and I like and use both. Ant and I hunt similar conditions in similarly mineralized soils and he is right about getting less depth on silver with the GB2. In addition to everything else that goes into the detector, frequency is important for finding small gold. That is why the Gold Bug Pro has a higher frequency than most coin detectors and the GB2 and GMT run even higher frequencies to be sensitive to the smallest of gold bits in exchange for losing some depth on other items.

Off the forums I have shared some of my thoughts of the Gold Bug Pro and GB2 with Ant and I am sure he probably has spoken with others who have used both to come to his conclusions in addition to the general idea that higher frequency works better for small gold. He knows the GB2 better than anyone else I know for inland gold jewelry hunting as he uses it everywhere and his tips have helped me to quickly get up to speed in sorting out the trash and the better finds with the GB2 in playgrounds loaded with trash. He has also found a lot of silver with it too.

 

[acasto]

Good luck to you, kai and to ant on your future hunts.

I'm out.

 

[gmanlight]

Hunting with a bud , he had a Omega and i had my GB .
He found a soft repeatable target I checked the target both hit a soft but nice four way signal.
The GB had a tighter ID . It was a clad dime at nine inches.

The other bonus is its tight ID
My soil is on the mild side.

 

[sgoss66]

gmanlight --

You are absolutely right. This machine has the tightest ID of any I have ever used...

Steve

 

[cuzzi25]

I didn't mean to get people all worked up but I appreciate the info. Im ordering a G2 and can't wait to get it. Thanks fellas.