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FRUSTRATED W/ NEW ACE 250

R

Ricch

New member
I am frustrated! Had it for a week. Playing in my yard the first day I snagged a 1930 merc dime and a 1940 penny and some foil and junk -- all of this in only 1/4 of my yard.

Wednesday and today I went our in other areas of my yard and get all sorts of coin signals but when I dig I find nothing. (note:the signal does not bounce around when I get one)

Setting: - Jewelry
Sensitivity: middle

When I pinpoint the area to dig I cut and pull back the sod flap and then dig the supposed depth and I find nothing. When I then re-scan the hole and the pile of dirt - nothing!! then I re-pinpoint and the signal moved over a little to the edge of the hole. I re-flap a new section of sod and re-dig and still nothing. Check the piles of sod and dirt and no signal.

No the really frustrating part is when nothing is found and no longer a signal, I then fill the hole in and re-scan and there's a signal again.

Soil is black dirt not strong iron content and no underground wires or pipes!!

ANY IDEAS???!!??!!??!!??

Thanks
Ricc Havens
Elkhart, IN
rv.havens@gte.net

PS: anyone in the Elkhart area that wants to come over and help a newbie PLEASE let me know!!
 
Had the same thing happen to me. Usally when it happens the coin or object is on the side of the hole or just a little deeper/ In jewlery mode you can pick uo a lot of bottle caps and alum. Try coin mode and lower your senstivy.
 
I had the same problem with the stock coil. I got a sniper coil and now the coin is always right on the x marked on the coil always!
 
This is the post that did it for me. Full marks to John in Edmonton.

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?32,674965,674980#msg-674980

Chris

There is a video floating around too. Maybe someone will post a link. I think it's on Youtube. Here it is:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=liyIUKonpGs
 
If youre getting a good signal forward and back and side to side their should be something there. Pinpointing does take a lot of practice. If you dont use a pinpointer and do this w/ the detector instead you can get good at it but never 100%.Both technique and soil cond. Play a big role in pinpointing.
 
It happens to me on 22 casings all the time. It's nothing other detectors don't do. Here's what I think. You hit a good target. Beep, beep, beep. You dig and nothing. I believe you have just moved the target enough away from some foil or junk or minerals that combined will make the detector beep. When you open the hole you have have disturbed that field. Now your detector is properly seeing the target. Guess what? It's in a notch that has been discriminated out. Simply put your detector in the all metal mode and I'm sure it will beep in the iron or low foil range. Try it. Also try running your sensitivity at 3 or 4 bars in these areas.
 
Your not wearing steel toe boots are ya?
 
To add to Day Yooper's post. Make sure the coil wire is ran strait up the shaft and tight for at least 1 foot. I run mine strait all the way up and put just one loop at the end.
 
There have been some good sugestion made. The pinpointing video will help with that side of things. Something to remember, is that the detector has it's depth meter calibrated to coin sized targets; so if you did down to a bit past the depth and no target, it's possible that you actually have a target that is bigger ie a coke can, and therefore lot's deeper! A simple way to check for this situation, is to raise your coil off the ground ground over the target and if you are still getting a clear signal more than 6inches above the ground, then it is not a coin.
Mick Evans.
 
Patience and practice.
 
We were all in your shoes when we started . I'll come when you least expect it. Try going to a dry beach (sand) and bury some coins, practice trying pinpointing on these.:detecting:
 
I'll put this one in one more time. I had tightened the coil connection when I first got mine, but had wrapped the coil wire so that when I swept it the slight waggle of the shaft caused a pull on the connection at the detector housing and made the thing go haywire when I found a signal. I inadvertently checked with the detector ON and the thing would just keep going off every time I touched it until I got the bind out. And, similar to another poster, I found fired rounds in the ground and if you have ever tried to pinpoint, much less SEE them, it's fun.:crazy:
 
YES SIR!! You are having the same problem just about everyone had when they first got their Ace. You have to learn to pinpoint with the eliptical coil. Personally I hate the damn things. Much perfer theconcentric/round coil. I use my 4.5 sniper coil all the time. Its always dead on. When Garrett finally comes out with optional round coils I am sending the eliptical coil back with a nice little note explaining why.:lol: I never use the standard coil if I don't have to.

Regards
RR
 
AAH it ain't that bad. When I field tested it long ago I figured out its quirks right away. One just has to practice a bit. Using coins taped to the back of a piece of cardboard is a good way to practice pinpointing with the stock coil.

Bill
 
Yea, it's easy really.. I never really ever had any problem doing it
unless I was getting trash or hot ground masking. In that case, it
will seem like the pinpoint mode wants to run off to the side much
farther than normal instead of getting a normal oval tone area.
But with any normal object with normal ground, it's a piece of cake.
Even with the 9x12 coil.
I've always used the standard "pull back until the tone quits" method.
If you are careful it's easy to stab coins in place.
I can see how hot ground conditions or other nearby metal could make
it seem funky though.
I've had it happen a few times.
The most critical part of pinpointing with the 250 is the side to side
centering before you pull back to kill the tone. If it's off, the pinpointing
is going to be off every time. If it's on, it'll end up at the front center edge
of the inner coil every time. But you have to recheck the centering all
the way back until the tone quits to really be accurate. The side to
side distance at that last point is very narrow and must be right on.
So it's possible to "seem" in the middle when the coil is centered over
the target, but be quite a bit off by the time the tone quits, due to the
shape of the coil. But even a round coil will have the same problem.
 
That's why it's best after pinpointing the first time to turn ninety degrees to the target and pinpoint again. This usually nails it.


Bill
 
Just this winter I had a coat on. It had plastic cuff buttons so I thought I was good to go. It took me a while to figure it out because it had to have some kind of metal rivet inside the cuff to hold the buttons on. I guess we should take our detectors with us when we buy new coats!
 
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