Freq's

[Architex]

Anyone know if nox's frequencies are normalized? If not, it will have different VDI's for each freq.

 

[Jason in Enid]

I asked a ML rep this same question. Their response was that the responses were the same regardless of settings.

Now, This was a couple months ago and the person who answered may or may not have been an EE so I take it with a grain of salt. The responses from the bottom freq to the top should be changed by a quite a bit.

 

[Architex]

Thanks.

 

[Jason in Enid]

FYI, I also asked a tester and he confirmed the responses were the same.

 

[Ksdirt]

FYI, I also asked a tester and he confirmed the responses were the same.

WOW ..now that's a big plus....

 

[Gannon]

FYI, I also asked a tester and he confirmed the responses were the same.

WOW ..now that's a big plus....

Thank God! The deus drives me nuts having to figure out which settings I have it on and VDI its going to be.. I know ID norm.. but it puts all high conductors in the top 90's.

 

[Architex]

FYI, I also asked a tester and he confirmed the responses were the same.

WOW ..now that's a big plus....

Thank God! The deus drives me nuts having to figure out which settings I have it on and VDI its going to be.. I know ID norm.. but it puts all high conductors in the top 90's.

Which is not a bad thing except for aluminum because high conductors are what we're usually after, but I don't know of any detector that will separate aluminum from some of the good stuff. At least the Deus has 99 VDI's to cherry pick with using tone disc. The nox has only 40 non ferrous VDI's. If the nox can separate aluminum (highly unlikely) then we might as well use all other detectors for paperweights.

 

[Jason in Enid]

. If the nox can separate aluminum (highly unlikely) then we might as well use all other detectors for paperweights.

The first detector that can do that will cost so much that 99% of us wont be able to afford it, but the ones who can will be posting handfuls of gold on a weekly basis.

 

[pasttom]

Anything delivering hands full of gold will comfortably pay its own way. I think finding someone with one in inventory will be a greater problem.

 

[Jason in Enid]

Anything delivering hands full of gold will comfortably pay its own way. I think finding someone with one in inventory will be a greater problem.

ya think? Look at the cost of the GPZ, and that cant tell the difference. We'd be looking at 30 - 50 thousand just because the company would know they could actually sell them for that much. Being able to recover the cost is one thing, having the cash to actually buy one is another. Would you go take a seconds mortgage on your home to buy one at that cost?

 

[IDXMonster]

At a “hands full of gold” rate they would form their own company to use them to find gold! Unless there is some special thing about gold that sets it apart in a way a machine can tell,were outta luck. It’s back to location,shape of gold and the nice exact compact stout signal a ring makes if you’re going to turf hunt. Or dig it all. At that point use whatever you want.

 

[Architex]

The subject was aluminum.

 

[IDXMonster]

The subject was aluminum.

Are you talking about aluminum screw caps?

 

[amberjack]

not much difference

AJ

 

[Architex]

What does silver look like?

 

[IDXMonster]

not much difference

AJ

Right... This might be a Size/surface area factor by which machines are “fooled”,though they are reporting exactly what they are designed to report.

 

[Architex]

As you know, detectors don't work on chemical valence, atomic weight or density. They work on conductivity. Aluminum and silver, and clad for that matter, are similar in conductivity and that's the problem we have.

 

[amberjack]

here is silver..

yes conductivity is a factor but size and shape play a bigger part than we may realize..

detectors are good at finding constant size & metal types , the problem comes in when inconstancy arises and why we are still only at the beginning of detection technology in telling us what the metal is which no detector can do today. I.E a detector can not say 80% gold 20% silver and why people say today that eyes are the best discrimination and then still are far from reliable in many cases.

so while coin shooting maybe easy in most cases, detecting anything else is just a lot of digging that's why today beep dig detectors still sell and sill find as much inconstant items as top of the range..

this post is based on my experience yours may differ.

AJ

 

[budster]

If we can tell what the atmosphere on a moon of Pluto is comprised of you would think that some smart inventor would come up with a way to be able to tell the difference between gold and aluminum.

 

[TomNH]

If we can tell what the atmosphere on a moon of Pluto is comprised of you would think that some smart inventor would come up with a way to be able to tell the difference between gold and aluminum.

COST ! Even if it were possible.