Found button need ID help.

[manganos]

I acutally found this at my sons elementary school here in Dinwiddie, Va. The school used to be a colored school back in the segregated days. I found this buried a couple of inches down just outside of the swings.

It has the mark of the infantry horn with wreaths around the button. It has some writing but I can't make it out just yet. It may say something "yorkshire". This is my first button find and I am really curious to find out more about it. Thanks!

 

[manganos]

Sorry, Button reads: Oxfordshire Buckinghamshire . I believe this button is from overseas?!? I wonder how it got here

 

[ThatCannonballGuy]

No offense meant, but due to the lack of a clear and close photo I can't ID the button with much certainty. At this point it looks like one of the varieties of the emblem of the Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Infantry Regiment (a.k.a. "the Ox & Bucks Regiment") ...which is the oldest still-existing British Army regiment. I've got a dug example of one type of its Regimental button. The Ox & Bucks Regiment was here (in USA territory) in the French & Indian War, the Revolutionary War, and the war of 1812. It also played a significant role on D-Day. So of course, it has a marvelous regimental history. Just do a web-search and you'll get loads of info about it.

If I recall correctly, some other digger found a similar item last month and posted an ID-request about it over at treasurenet.com ...and I answered it. Or, maybe the ID-request was here at Findmall. (Sorry I can't remember which, but it's been a really long day ...and I'm over 55. ;-)

Your button's lack of a maker-marked back causes it to be a bit difficult to establish a solid time-era for. But I suspect that a British Military Buttons equivalent of Albert's button-book has to exist somewhere. : )

Regards,
TheCannonballGuy (Pete George)

 

[manganos]

Thanks for the quick response. I have done a little research and found out there was a British route just north of me during the revoultionary war. I would have never thought to find a button like this around here, and in a school playground area no less! Thanks again. (No offense taken on the photo comment, I'm still trying to learn the macro selection)

 

[ThatCannonballGuy]

Manganos, you're welcome. : ) By the way, your post correcting the name to Oxfordshire instead of Yorkshire arrived at the forum while I was typing, so I didn't get to see it until after I made my post.

In it, I said I knew somebody had dug a button with that emblem recently and posted an ID-request about it, and that I had replied to it. I did some searching and I found that ID-request.

"Can anyone ID this button?" by NealNoINIronBrigade back on sept.16, 2005 ...and I answered it on Feb. 9, 2006 (just a few days after I first got told about the Findmall forums). As of tonight (Sunday) that thread is close to the bottom of Page 3 of this forum (Relic Hunting).

You might want to go to that thread, to see the photo Neal posted of his button. I mention that photo because I think it shows the Rev-War era version of the button. I'm almost certain that your button (and mine) are not Rev-War era, but at least 1820s or MUCH later, because ours are "two-piece" brass buttons. Mine has an iron back ...which may be the reason the back is missing out of yours. But who knows for sure? ;-)

As I said, with no back - or a heavily rust-coated iron back like mine's - determining a date-of-manufacture for a Foreign button gets far more difficult. I suspect it's going to require a reference-book of British Military Buttons. I'll do a search for one, and you do that also, please.

Meanwhile, here is something I said to Neal in my reply to him on Feb. 9th, 2006.
"You can see a photo of the emblem on your button - and read the Oxfordshire & Buckinghamshire (a.k.a. "Ox & Bucks") regiment's history) at:
[www.royalgreenjackets.co.uk]

Regards,
TheCannonballGuy (Pete George)