Forse Core vs Impact

[David_lvdc]

Hi,at first sorry for my english.

I'm interested in buying a Nokta detector.

I have about 700 € of budget and I would like to know if I buy the Nokta fors core or if I wait for the new Nokta Impact.

Will both detectors be in the same price range?

Will the new Nokta Impact improve the performance of the Nokta fors core?

Will Nokta Impact hit the market in the coming weeks or will it be delayed?

Thanks and regards

 

[Monte]

Hi,at first sorry for my english

There's nothing bad about what you have posted here! I wish some folks in the USA could write and spell as well, with American English.

I'm interested in buying a Nokta detector.

That it a definitely good consideration. You haven't mentioned what detector(s) you currently own or have had, and also didn't mention what types of detection you plan to do, and the hunt site challenges you'll face.

I have about 700 € of budget and I would like to know if I buy the Nokta fors core or if I wait for the new Nokta Impact.

Today that's about $724 in USA dollars and could purchase a brand new FORS Relic that comes with 2 search coils, or a FORS CoRe with enough remaining to buy a 2nd coil of your choice to complement the standard 7X11 DD. Naturally, you might find a very clean, gently used detector with two or more coils with that buying power. I know I have.

Will both detectors be in the same price range?

Until the Impact is fully evaluated and the good folks at Nokta establish a firm MSRP, we won't know what the list price is going to be. However, the Impact is going to be a very full-featured, multi-frequency select detector that I would certainly think to come out at a higher retail price than a CoRe or Relic or any FORS series model.

Will the new Nokta Impact improve the performance of the Nokta fors core?

Certainly in some ways, simply having a higher and lower operating frequency can create some 'edge' in performance difference. Even the current FORS Relic provides what some consider "improved performance" just by operating at 19 kHz and having Iron Audio Volume and Tone Break to name the main differences. The FORS Relic is my most often used detector for my old Relic Hunting sites, however as much as I really enjoy using my Relic, my CoRe does not go unnoticed or unused. It is a very solid-performing, reliable- and deep-seeking detector that works quite well for all my detecting needs.

Will Nokta Impact hit the market in the coming weeks or will it be delayed?

We are all waiting for the Impact evaluations to be done and have an 'official' announcement of the Impact's release, but I would guess that won't be until the first or second month of 2017. Just a guess.

The Known? That the Nokta FORS CoRe is a very dependable, solid performing detector with a lot of versatility.

The Known? That Nokta Detectors puts in the time and effort to monitor the consumers wishes, and devotes ample time to making sure a new product is operating quite well prior to it's introduction.

The Unknown? Exactly what detector might work well for someone else, and not being sure when the Impact will be out, what search coils it might have available, and how well it is going to perform.

Monte

 

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Also, if you buy before the new year, you get a bonus at kellyco and other suppliers.... Rain and dust covers and a free pinpoint yet with their end of the year sale going on!!

 

[David_lvdc]

Thank you very much for the answers, I will explain a little more.

I have had a Tecknetics Eurotek Pro for 2 years, and mainly I look for in the field, coins, jewels and relics. Sometimes I'll look at the beach too.

I want to buy my final machine for many years and my budget is about 700 - 750 $.

I thought of the Nokta Impact because I thought its price would be in this range and it looks like a very complete detector.

However, if the Nokta Impact is too expensive for me, I have to decide between these 2:

Nokta fors Relic and Makro Racer 2.

I have many doubts, I do not know which is the most complete machine that suits me.

I am looking for an all-terrain, deep detector with a stable VDI and with many configuration options. I would choose XP Dios but I do not have that much money.

 

[UtahRich]

Thank you very much for the answers, I will explain a little more.

I have had a Tecknetics Eurotek Pro for 2 years, and mainly I look for in the field, coins, jewels and relics. Sometimes I'll look at the beach too.

I want to buy my final machine for many years and my budget is about 700 - 750 $.

I thought of the Nokta Impact because I thought its price would be in this range and it looks like a very complete detector.

However, if the Nokta Impact is too expensive for me, I have to decide between these 2:

Nokta fors Relic and Makro Racer 2.

I have many doubts, I do not know which is the most complete machine that suits me.

I am looking for an all-terrain, deep detector with a stable VDI and with many configuration options. I would choose XP Dios but I do not have that much money.

HI David,

Unfortunately, Nokta has not announced to the public the pricing or specifications of the yet to be introduced IMPACT. So the ONLY person that I know of that can answer YOUR question would be Dilek, from Nokta. I don't believe that Dilek is ready to release pricing and specifications on the IMPACT, but you can always ask.

Rich (Utah)

 

[Nokta Detectors]

Specs for the Racer are finalized but the MSRP has not been set yet.
All I can say for now is that it will be above the Racer / Fors price range yet still lower than the competitive products.
Hope this helps.

 

[Nokta Detectors]

Correction - Specs for the Impact are finalized but the MSRP has not been set yet.
All I can say for now is that it will be above the Racer / Fors price range yet still lower than the competitive products.
Hope this helps.

 

[UtahRich]

Correction - Specs for the Impact are finalized but the MSRP has not been set yet.
All I can say for now is that it will be above the Racer / Fors price range yet still lower than the competitive products.
Hope this helps.

YES, it does. It helps a lot in planning for this upcoming year.

Rich (Utah)

 

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And who are the competitive products ?????????????? like a AKA sorex ----------------F-70-75-------------- ctx3030------------- V3i--------At pro-----------------------------------after1--------------------------------

 

[Monte]

"competitive models" that provide some of the main features developed with the pending Nokta Impact.

And who are the competitive products ?????????????? like a AKA sorex ----------------F-70-75-------------- ctx3030------------- V3i--------At pro-----------------------------------after1--------------------------------

That would certainly NOT include the models you listed because they are not in the same class or 'competitive' with similar features.

Besides, I have owned all but the AKA Sorex and CTX-3030, and I borrowed a CYX for a few weeks for some field work and preferred the performance of the Explorer II of their FBS models. I didn't actually own the F70, but I did the F75, and its close cousin, the Tek. T2 which I preferred over the F75. I had several White's Spectra series models.

Out of those models you listed ... [size=small]and some readers might hold their breath for this[/size] ... I would pick the Garrett AT Pro simply because it provided the better performance in a wide range of challenging places I hunt most often, and those are very iron contaminated sites. I put it up against the F75, T2, V3i, VX3, Explorer II, SE Pro and CTX-3030, and in the toughest trash it edged out most of them, and for urban Coin & Jewelry Hunting it was a bit more favorable than the others.

Not mentioned was the White's MXT Pro, and it is the one that out-performance the AT Pro and, back then, remained my main-use, all-purpose detector. That was back then ....

In January of 2015 the Nokta FORS CoRe blasted the MXT Pro and several other detectors I had, to include the T2, Omega 8000, MX5 and Explorer II, right out of my personal detector arsenal. I hunt very tough, challenging sites with ample iron debris, but I also put in some serious urban Coin Hunting in older parks and other places of long-ago use, and I have need of excellent unmasking in troubling trash, yet wish to get reasonable depth and functional Target ID and Tone ID for a lot of Coin Hunting in typical sites. For almost all of my detecting needs, they are easily handled by my three favorite TID/Tone ID models, in order, the Nokta FORS Relic, the Nokta FORS CoRe and the Makro Racer 2. Specialty work is handled by the Makro Gold Racer.

All three of these models have some of the best 'competitive' prices compared with other makes and models in their class with comparable feature offerings. The coming Nokta Impact is different from them and those you mentioned because it will offer unique selectable functions, such as operator selection of the operating frequency. That is perhaps the main known new feature, and I am certain the Nokta development team has brought together more adjustment functions than what are found on models you mentioned, or even those that I own and use full-time.

Think of any make or model that allows the operator to select from three or four operating frequencies, then compare those 'competitive products' against what the Impact is going to provide us, and at a very competitive MSRP.

My opinions ...

Monte

 

[David_lvdc]

To conclude this conversation, my question was whether the Nokta impact would be better than Nokta Core, and although it may be so, its price will be too high for me.

Monte, you have a lot of experience with the machines that I am doubting. I would like you to help me decide between Nokta fors Relic and Makro Racer 2. It will be my only detector for a long time. For an all-terrain use, usually at field and once time beach. Almost always looking for coins, medals, buttons ... I care a lot that It has a precise target, easy to separate trash from important things, stable and will almost always use the 7x11 DD dish.

I need a help to decide why I do not know which one suits me more.

Thank you

 

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Monte -----Were you a tester for the Impact?------------------------------------------------after1---------------------

 

[amberjack]

racer 2 is going to be a better all-round detector than the 19 kHz relic.

AJ