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Goes4ever

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do you get a LOT of bouncing around type signals where it will jump back from pulltab, to penny, to quarter then back and forth again, and the depth meter will go nuts up and down 2 inches, 6 inches 8 inches etc......

It seems like everyone of these type signals are near impossible to pinpoint as well, I dug a lot of them today and everyone was aluminum shreds, pulltabs or a bottle screw cap.

But everytime it is a coin it locks on and pinpoints almost perfect.

My question is do I just ignore these signals? Because today I had them all day long on the lot I was at, maybe I need a sniper coil for this lot. Ideas, comments?
 
Sounds like a sniper is what you need in this situation. And experience.
 
The bouncing, changing and intermitant one way signal seems to haunt me also. A real pain in the behind to pinpoint also. I have noticed that a aluminum can signal shard sounds like a piece of trash UNLESS it is folded over upon itself. Then I get a coin reading and tone that is a real dissapointment to uncover.
 
Sounds like you are learning. A number of our lower value Aussie coins bounce around a bit, but give a faily crisp pinpoint.
Mick Evans.
 
Goes4ever: If you have a coil cover installed you might think of taking it off and cleaning it out. There might be some hot material inside.

Get dirty....DirtyDon
 
I experience the same problems. When it locks on a coin 99% of the time it is exactly what it says it is. The thing that baffles me is when the machine says whatever is at 6 inches, I dig 6 inches then 8 inches and still haven't found anything even though the machine says it is still there. Very puzzling. When I start smelling chinese food I quit.
 
I do not have a coil cover, and it is refreshing to see I am not the only one having this problem, I was starting to think my machine was messed up.
 
It this is the case, you may just have to live with it.


One way to tell if it is a good target is how it pinpoints. You already said you know when it is a coin. When you sweep over the coin in pinpoint from a few sides, you will notice it is smooth and very small. A can, however, has a much larger profile and may not sound as smooth. I usually sweep the coil in a circular motion, around the coin. If it is can slaw I can usually determine it by this circular sweep.

Whether to dig or not depends on the depth. A shallow signal bouncing around is likely to be trash. A faint, deep signal that bounces around a bit, on the other hand, may be a deep old coin. I would ignore the shallow signals and dig the deeper one. Just my opinion
 
[quote dirtydon]Goes4ever: If you have a coil cover installed you might think of taking it off and cleaning it out. There might be some hot material inside. Get dirty....DirtyDon[/quote]When I started I used a cover and had that problem one time. It was full of mineralized sand. Then I found out the coils are almost bullet proof. I took it off and don't use it any more.
 
Sometimes you dig and don't find anything. It could be a long ago rusted out piece of iron. Nothing to see but the iron particles are still there. That is one way to get a bouncy signal and dig nothing. Like you said, it's all a learning curve. Nearly 2 years later I'm still going through it.
 
[quote johnhinnc]I experience the same problems. When it locks on a coin 99% of the time it is exactly what it says it is. The thing that baffles me is when the machine says whatever is at 6 inches, I dig 6 inches then 8 inches and still haven't found anything even though the machine says it is still there. Very puzzling. When I start smelling chinese food I quit.[/quote]


I have (and still ) experience the same thing but here is an exercise for you.
Go back to the same location a week later and find the same spot you dug unsuccessfully. For some reason, be it ground moisture or whatever re-pinpointing a spot will usually move the target a half inch or more from where you swore it was earlier.
I recovered a pair of quarters from the same hole I had given up in frustration two weeks earlier and they were less than an inch away from the edge of my earlier digging.
Why I had pinpointed the wrong spot earlier I just chalked up to experience and lack of knowledge of de-tuning.
 
No matter what detector or brand you use you get a gut feeling. What I mean is on a clean coin in good ground you can almost feel that your coil is over a coin. I know it when I hear it. These are you clean lock on signals that never waver. They sound great and pinpoint small. All these things tell your gut you have a good target. The problem is that these kind of hits are few and far between. So now we're left to try to decipher the bad beeps and non locking targets that have an iffy pinpoint. Lot's of these targets are good ones too! You just have to dig it up and look.....
 
Hey Goes4ever. You wrote the perfect post for me. I have only hunted
the still frozen bark chips so far, and everything you described is happening
here. I am chalking it up to learning my new machine. Frustrating yes, surprising,
maybe a little. But i'm following the 100 hour rule, and still have a long, long way
to get those hours under my belt. I will also get the sniper coil, but first I am going to
master the stock one.I need some warmer weather so I can do more than scrape the
top 2 inches of bark. Good luck to ya. Sorry for the long wind. Dan.
 
goes4ever I have read several of your post and I experience everything you talk about. At least I feel normal. I have found alot of signals that jump around like that is a can that got hit by a lawn mower and has scattered aluminum pieces because I sure have dug alot of small shreds of aluminum.
 
what is the best and worst thing about the ace 250 im trying to figure out what kind of detector to purchase and i dont want to spend alot of money but i want to get a good one.
 
what is the best and worst thing about the ace 250 im trying to figure out what kind of detector to purchase and i dont want to spend alot of money but i want to get a good one.
 
I've only had my ACE 250 for about 3 weeks and have the same problem some of the time. Sometimes it is a lot of trash in the area and once I have dug up one of the targets and made some space it quiets down. I also have the same problem with quarters on or just below the surface. I will raise the coil up an inch or two and that usually solves the problem.
 
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