For Coin And Jewelry Hunting Which Whites Is Know To Be The Deepest

[MarkCZ]

Before I buy or sell any more detectors, which White's model is the deepest for coins and jewelry? (probably in the used market)

Mark

 

[Larry (IL)]

I have used them all and there is no doubt it is the V3i hands down. In certain ground, the TDI pulse will do better, but I had to assume you wanted a VLF detector.

 

[Joel-Winnipeg]

Larry will the VX3 equal the V3i in depth or close to it ?
Am thinking of upgrading to the VX3 as it's more of a turn on and go detector
which will appeal to my style of hunting.

 

[MarkCZ]

Well, lets regroup just a bit. (Or maybe back up a bit)
In the used market and lets say under $600.00
It would be nice to own a off the shelf $1400.00 detector, but that's not going to happen in my life time. So, I look at later versions of those that was 8" deeper than the previous model it replaced LOL! (Love that marketing)

Really, my 5900 seems to be okay deep,
I figured the XLT to be at lest as deep, (I've not been able to get it out yet, maybe its not??)
A lot of folks say the 6000/Di Pro-sl was pretty deep, but a lot of what I've read it sounds like it has the same horse power as the 5900.

Now, I'm reading some stuff about the MXT-300 and how its supposed to be really deep?

When I got the XLT I was looking at the DFX, but they were all over my price range.
So, whats good, whats deep in between the Whites 5900/Di Pro-sl and the DFX? (if any)

Mark

 

[Larry (IL)]

I would say the VX3 will be very close. They are really the same detector but the user interface has fewer options to fine tune for certain ground conditions. The VX3 runs in Correlate mode, three frequency while the V3i can run in Best Data. Some users (including me) think Best Data is slightly deeper. The VX3 is a great machine though, quiet, deep, good target ID and reliable.

 

[Larry (IL)]

It is hard to beat the MXT and MXT Pro in that price range. Unless you are going to hunt in very clean ground most of the time, I would suggest the 950 coil for general hunting. The 300 is very good in covering more ground in fairly trash free areas, but too big in the trash. If you are going to hunt in the trash, you should get the 5.3 or the 6X10 DD.

 

[deputydawg16]

get a QXT Pro really deep and easy to use. I love mine

 

[Monte]

Before I buy or sell any more detectors, which White's model is the deepest for coins and jewelry? (probably in the used market)

Mark, the first problem with providing an answer is not knowing the type of site you plan to hunt. Since you mentioned finding coins and jewelry that can often suggest typical coin and jewelry locations which would be in parks and similar grassy sites on an urban setting, or it could be at a sandy beach. In most urban applications coins, jewelry and other commonly desired targets are not all that deep, for good reason. Typically, in the surface to 4" depth range for most desired targets. In some cases they might be a little deeper, if there has been sufficient ground build-up or disturbance to cause their 'relocation.'

You also added that you want a model that is "... deepest for coins and jewelry" which poses a problem if you are searching in a well manicured lawn area where, for one thing, they usually are not deep, and for two, some deeper located desired targets will be masked by shallower unwanted and discriminated junk.

As mentioned, in most urban settings there will also be accompanying trash. Nails, hair pins, foils, bottle caps, pull tabs, screw caps, and all sorts of unwanted targets. This poses a challenge to us all because we either don't mind recovering trash, or we don't want to recover trash. For those who just don't want trash they have two options. Ignore any audio response from them by using their Disc. level to reject junk, and relying on the visual Target ID to help 'hint' that a target is most probably good, or most likely bad.

Anyone who relies heavily on their audio and visual discrimination and target identification systems with the anticipation that they are highly accurate is simply making a mistake. Target depth, target position, and the presence of nearby or shallower masking trash will easily torque the 'proper' Good target identity. We have to employ the tools that work and when after deeper targets, rely almost exclusively on the audio response. I only factor in TID to help classify potential iron, not a proper target description if it is deep or associated with close trash.

Now, if you are hunting a sandy beach location then finding a deeper coin or jewelry item is more likely to be located deeper than average due to the fluid state that cases displacement. There you will want to recover deeper targets, but I wouldn't rely on Target ID. Recovery at sandy beaches is much easier, anyway, and the disturbed area is quickly and easily restored to how it was.

Finally, anyone who is dead set on finding all the better jewelry they can, and I am referring to gold and silver jewelry, needs to be ready to keep their Discrimination set low and recover ALL targets that might be good, taking all of the crap out at the same time. Gold jewelry finds run quite a spectrum from the iron/foil breakpoint up to screw caps, usually, and I have found a couple of 24K gold rings that locked on the 1

 

[MarkCZ]

Thanks "Monte"
Well, no beaches here in good old West Virginia. (LOL)
Its seems for the past 30 years or so I've been hunting for coins and I would like to hunt for jewelry seeing how its worth so much and in places its a replenishing treasure.

I'm not above hunting in wooded areas, but that's not where I find myself hunting, normally I'm in average mineralized soil,
Lawns,
Parks,
Ball fields/soccer fields
old fair grounds,,
ect....

The local park has been a park sense the early 20's the park has a seeded layer of beaver tail pull tabs in the 3" to 5" range. That puts the pull tabs in the date range of 1965-1975 Now that puts the pre 60 coins below the 5" range.
So, I'm thinking that to get to the good stuff I have to work through the trash, but I also want a detector that will do pretty good down in the 6" to 8" range. I have other brands of detectors that will make the range, but I was wanting to add a Whites to my collection. The idea isn't because its may be better or worse, but maybe different enough to pull some missed good stuff out of the ground. But if what I get won't hit a us quarter at 6" or beyond then I just need to stay home.

I have a Whites 5900/Di Pro-sl
A Whites XLT.

Now I was thinking when I got the XLT I could get rid of the 5900, I guess I just assumed the XLT would go as deep as the 5900, but if the 5900 is deeper then maybe I need to get rid of the XLT?
Maybe get rid of both and look for something else in the Whites line that I've over looked. Hence, this topic.

Mark

Mark

 

[MarkCZ]

Okay, here is the deal.
My test garden is over a year old now and one coin is a 1800's large Cent, its at 8" deep. ($4.00 at the flea market)
My coinstrike will hit it and ID it.
My 1266 hits it pretty good.
My 5900 hits it but ID's it a little high but at lest it calls it a digger (keeper)

I've not tried the XLT yet (surly it will hit it as well as the 5900??)

For me I'm going to say 8" is pretty deep for coin hunting and be able to call it a coin. For beep and dig I can use my freebie 1266 that my neighbor gave me.

For cherry picking I use my other freebie a hip mounted Teknetics 8500 with a 10" spider coil. (my oldest stepson bought me this one)

So, in the Whites lineup of earlier models what's good for me. I mainly got the XLT with the thinking it would be a lighter maybe deeper more modern 5900.
Will the XLT replace the 5900 for depth on coin hunting?

Mark

 

[Hombre]

Hi Mark,

You really need to look at Monte's web site, American Heritage Research and Preservation Society (AHRPS.org) and look at the General Metal Detecting Forum, and the first thread is about the DFX, I think that you will like that post.

 

[bootyhoundpa]

i have found more gold with the 5900 than my than my sov gt....... most at fresh water beaches........however ive done well in back yards and parks as well....in parks i concentrate around higher probability areas like basket ball or volley ball courts.....the 5.3 coil is the best when working these areas as it gives better target seperation .....if you set the discrim low but still can tell can slaw from coin or ring signal you have greatly increased your chances as you will be chasing less trash..... when you come upon a coin spill dig a few of the iffy signals which are in the same area as the coins...if the gold is there you just might find it.....unfortunatly only rings give really strong signals...alot of the penndent and tiny hoop type ear rings and charms dont sound all that great.... in farm fields my sov gt with double d coil out performs the 5900 ; i have run into some hunters over the years who were very knowledgable and skilled with the dfx and i do believe in the right hands it will out perform the 5900....

 

[scoper]

Hi Mark,i just wanted to say that before you look at one of the older whites models do take a serious look at the mxt pro.I recently purchased one of these machines and as you know they come with the 12" coil which is very deep and usable in clean ground and moderately mineralised soil.....it's also obviously good for ground coverage as well.However,it's not this coil that has really got me enthusiastic about the mxt pro......it's the sef 8x6.This coil in my opinion is exceptional........it's very deep for it's size and it's ability in trash is as good as it gets.The coil makes the mxt much easier to use for long periods of time and more stable in operation.I would say this is the perfect general purpose coil for the mxt but that would not be singing it's praises highly enough as the coil excels in all areas in my experience.I'm confident that this coil has opened up my worked out fields again and i'm sure it would for others if they gave it a chance.If you buy an older model whites machine you will not be able to try this coil which would be a missed opportunity in my opinion.

 

[Monte]

Matter of fact, let me add a few other comments in general before I address your two follow-up posts. There are several currently-produced models in the lower-to-mid-price range that I have or have had recently that do a very good job at coin hunting and jewelry hunting in 'typical' day-to-day sites we enjoy. Of them my favorites are the Teknetics Omega, White's M6, and the White's MXT and MXT Pro. My oldest son moved up to a better White's last February when I sold him a new M6 I had acquired, and the 5.3 Eclipse coil (6

 

[MarkCZ]

WoW! what a bunch of good responses.
Monte, I think you worked all night on that last post, amazing!

Thanks everybody.

Mark

 

[MarkCZ]

Okay, here is the deal.
My test garden is over a year old now and one coin is a 1800's large Cent, its at 8" deep. ($4.00 at the flea market)
My coinstrike will hit it and ID it.
My 1266 hits it pretty good.
My 5900 hits it but ID's it a little high but at lest it calls it a digger (keeper)

What settings are you using with your 5900 Di Pro SL, and with which search coil?

So far I've been running the stock 950 coil on the 5900,
I do run the pre-amp gain as hot as I can and still keep the detector calm,
Hot rock reject off (found out that with this I lose a little depth)
Discrimination set just below US nickles.
Everything else seems to land pretty much around Pre-Sets (very close anyway)

Mark

 

[Monte]

I am not a computer keyboard wizard, to be sure. I know some folks think my replies are sometimes a bit lengthy, and I guess they can be, but they do call for me to put in the time because I have slow-motion typing skills. Two-finger is kind of like 2-filter detector operation with patient overlapping. More slow and methodical..