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Fisher ID Edge is a clad magnet

Sven

Well-known member
Not being used to the multi tones and the fact that Canadian clad is a real booger to ID correctly with any ID machine.
Was getting frustrated hunting with it, telling trash from treasure.
Well to day that changed. Did some new testing with the Ca clad lying flat and on edge. Jotted down the numbers that it would
get repeated signals that each coin would jump between. Did the pull tabs, foil, bottle caps, silver coins, silver and gold rings.

I know the silver coins and rings and gold rings lock on solid at particular numbers. The Ca clad jumps as does the junk.
Drew up a new cheat sheet to attach to my Edge control box and went out to test it using the 6" coil. Dug the numbers I knew could be good targets.
Glad to say clad count went up and deep ones too as well as those on edge. Trash count went down.

I probably have about 30 hours in learning this detector. ......Things just started to click today to where I'm really starting to like it.
Will hit the local beach's band stand and grassy area Sunday morning. It's a very popular spot for the young kids and adults all week long.
It will be interesting to see how much I can cherry pick the new drops over the past 6 weeks, if some one hasn't beat me too it yet.
 
Back from my morning 2 1/2 hr hunt at the waterfront bandshell and grassy area around it. Man with all the local kids hanging out there would have thought there would have been a heck of a lot more clad dropped as well as a few pcs. of jewelry........

Well, looks like the kids these days up here in this small city don't carry much change around, not a rich city by any means, not the best local economy.
Did find a lot of trash and a handful of coins, mostly pennies, a few quarters nickels and dimes. Nothing to write home about or worth posting a picture.
The Edge with the 6" coil does work great able to separate the trash from the clad. Since the ground is a well kept park, pulled out the knife only a few times to dig a plug.
Used my digging probe to get the rest, as I was concentrating more on current drops.......

Was going to go back to the school ground I started last night for a few more hours...looked at the time and the gray sky, figured that getting some of my chores done before it starts to rain.
Can always go back in the evening time, a better option.........
 
Sven, for more stable ID sweep the coil with more precision. Sloppy sweeping will give jumpy signals.
 
When I get a target, I'll try and zero in on it to stabilize the ID numbers along with the tone. Only takes a a few seconds to do. And I will use the pinpoint button to zero in on it to help determine size and target strength. I especially like the overload signal, it alerts me to the fact that our :canadaflag: clad is on or near the surface. Makes popping the coin out of the ground easy using a curved tip screwdriver.

The 6" coin works excellent I can separate a low and high tone target if they are close together. Our pennies for the most part always hit around 29-30 with a lock on if they are within 5" of the surface. The coins on edge clearly give a low tone and always fall in the -19 to -24 range, then if digging it out falls flat and you check the hole it gives the appropriate signal sometimes high and or med. tone.

If our clad falls into this range chart using the 6" coil, chart I have attached to the control housing:
Our clad bounces between these numbers and will not lock on. A different hunting style needed than for US coins.
TOON 24 to 28 -23 to -24
LOON 25 to 31 -19 to -24
QUAR 24 to 32 -12, -20 to -21
SILVR 31 to 33
GOLD Rings 5 to 7, 9, 10, 14, 17
PULL 11, 15
FOIL 3 CAP 7

Following the chart it appears I will dig all the worthwhile signals I shouldn't miss much. Dimes, nickels and pennies fall into the Toonie Loonie, quarter ranges.

Disc set up to -26, sensitivity 8-10, no notch.
 
Sven, You say coins on edge clearly give a low tone and always fall in the - 19 to - 24 range.
I will have to go back to the corn field where I found the seated dime Friday. The field was loaded with low tones but I dug only a few out of curiosity, each was junk. Maybe some of those other low tones were coins on edge. Will go back and dig the small targets that are low tones. The dime was a mixture of med & high tones, maybe was laying flat. Dug lots of crushed soda cans over 6" deep, could be most coins there are not laying flat.
 
Just have to remember the modern Canadian clad has a steel core with nickel plating, except for the Loonie & Toonie.
In your case you might be hearing a steel washer on edge giving a low tone.
I have never tested a washer to see, come to think of it I have never dug a washer that fell into the clad ranges.

Canadian Clad
PENNY

1978-79 3.24 98.0% Cu, 1.75% Sn, 0.25% Zn
1980-81 2.8 98.0% Cu, 1.75% Sn, 0.25% Zn
1982-96 2.5 98.0% Cu, 1.75% Sn, 0.25% Zn
1997-99 2.25 98.4% Zn, 1.6% Cu plating
2000- 2.35 94.0% steel, 4.5% Cu, 1.5% Ni, (*) (NOTE: Magnetic!)
(*) Note that some pennies in 2000-01 had copper-plated steel compositions,
as evidenced by a small
 
Canadian coins have a heck of a metals mix compared to ours, gotta be tuff ID'ing those. The 3 acre corn field wasn't planted this year, weeds are up to my knees in most places and 6" high corn stalk stubs, ain't easy to get deep. OK to use a shovel. Gotta be IH pennies, Merc dimes, buff nickles there, will go back and check out more low tones out of curiosity. I'm retired, 72 years young, this hobby keeps me fit, been my passion since 1972. Dave.
ID Edge, CoinStrike, Golden uMax.
 
all those toonies and loonies would make me loony!
just sayin' heh! heh! heh! (lol!)

(h.h.!)
j.t.
 
have you ever experienced ANY (e.m.i.) issues with the i.d. edge?
just curious!..does the edge have a frequency change control on it?
thanks!

(h.h.!)
j.t.
 
No frequency control. Only one spot did I have some EMI issues
 
sven! in your view,do you believe your "depth" was affected by the (e.m.i.) you experienced at that one site?
just curious!..thanks!

(h.h.!)
j.t.
 
LOL, the Edge sounded like a Minelab, flutely, 4 tones cycling. Didn't stay in the area very long to notice any effects on depth. I was hunting with a limited time on my hands, so I just moved away from the area of EMI rather than seeing if I can tame the wild beast.
 
Hey Sven...just picked up the ID Edge for sale from the Prospector here on Findmall. How ya likin' it so far? You're a Canuck too eh? Whereabouts in Canada. Nova Scotia here. Maybe we can compare notes once I get a chance to put a few hours of hunting on mine.
 
ok! kool! thanks! how's the 'toony and loony count lately?

(h.h.!)
j.t.
 
kool! i guess i dont have to ask any more questions! heh heh heh!
good luck with the "edge!"

(h.h.!)
j.t.
 
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