Fisher F5 possibly available beginning of June

[Golden Silver]

I don't know if anyone else here is waiting for the introduction into the marketplace of the Fisher F5; I am. I'm in the market for a possible new, high tech, detector to replace my current Bounty Hunter Land Star. I'm replacing the LS because it doesn't have 100% DISCRIMINATION. IOW, I want to discriminate coins up to the pre-1982 copper cent so that I can dig dimes, quarters, and halves only. I know, I know, I'm not going to pick up gold jewelry. I want to the tell the detector what to do and not settle for the manufacturers to tell me what I have to accept.

Today I received a call from Mike Scott at Fisher and I posed a couple of questions which he answered. I asked when the F5 is going to be introduced and he said possibly at the beginning of June. He was out today testing a prototype! I then asked him about the DISCRIMINATION if it was 100% and I explained that I could knock out up to copper coins with my Teknetics Mark I Ltd so that I could go home with dimes, quarters, and halves. I told him about my Land Star. He was surprised at the question as he had not considered it and told me that he was going out right away to test the F5 and get back to me about whether the F5 can discriminate out copper cents and still pick up dimes, etc.

That's the latest. If the F5 does NOT disc out copper cents, I may find an old Mark I and be happy once again.

Golden Silver

 

[EZrider]

Hey Ed, glad you found some answers at least. I have to ask this though since you and i both hunt NYC. If you run the Disc up that high you will be masking and silent masking anything not Disc. How do you plan on countering this? We both know there are many tabs and caps in the ground where we hunt. If i run my 75 at max disc i hear nothing at all due to masking. Hate to break it to you friend but the days of silver filled parks are over, at least here where we live unless you want to hear and dig though the trash to get them. My money is on the F5 haveing a max Disc of 65. That is zinc on down.

 

[Golden Silver]

See my comments under the thread "Bill, when are you going to do an F-5 video?"

 

[Golden Silver]

[quote EZrider]Hey Ed, glad you found some answers at least. I have to ask this though since you and i both hunt NYC. If you run the Disc up that high you will be masking and silent masking anything not Disc. How do you plan on countering this? We both know there are many tabs and caps in the ground where we hunt. If i run my 75 at max disc i hear nothing at all due to masking. Hate to break it to you friend but the days of silver filled parks are over, at least here where we live unless you want to hear and dig though the trash to get them. My money is on the F5 haveing a max Disc of 65. That is zinc on down.[/quote]

Hi EZ: Yeah, I got some answers, but not the ones I was hoping for. I do not plan now nor have I ever run the Disc to Max. But with my old Tek I COULD disc out copper cents and still pick up dimes, etc. It had that fine difference between copper cent and dime that modern detectors lack. A dime is smaller than a copper or zinc cent and its metal composition differs from the cent's. So, George Payne, designed a machine that could give separate readings on the two coins: copper cents and clad dimes. You could even hear a slight difference bet. a clad and silver dime! Those were the days of lesser tech but very highly effective EXACTING detecting.

You hit it right on the nail when you said that the F5's DISC would max out at 65 as Mike Scott told me as he was testing the F5 while we were on the phone with me hearing it in the background. He doesn't understand that. He was surprised when the disc maxed out at 65 when it SHOULD have gone to 99 and he's going to see what he can do about it, if anything. The first production models will probably max out at 65 but later models may go to the 99 meaning it will be silent on ALL targets. It's just a choice one ought to have even if one doesn't use. There will come a time when someone does not want to dig copper cents but will have to because detector designers didn't think it might be desired.

Let me explain something I forgot to mention about the Tek. You could advance the DISC to max meaning you wouldn't hear anything, and then you would open a notch window anywhere you wanted so that the detector would sound off ONLY on that target, and the reverse of course.

And, no, the parks are not empty of silver except that I'm talking about Central Park, NO NO land. There are still millions of silver and other coins in CP but we'll never be able to get our hands on them. Perhaps Prospect Park is also laden with silver and THAT park we can access.

 

[EZrider]

Ed the 75 is like that. The Disc and notch are both indipendant although it only gos up to 65. Even though the wheats give a high tone if you trust your machine by reading the VID they will be 69-70. Silver will come in at 75-80+. Any reading of 69-70 2 inches or less is a penny, at 5 inches is a wheat. New verses old i say go by the numbers instead of the tone if you dont have tone options. I have to admit i d like diging the wheats as it tells me the area im in has silver.

 

[wade tx]

Pick any one segment, or blank out all segments.---Wade

 

[XLT-user]

All Whites metered analog detectors will give you the difference on the meter reading..Zinc just under 10 cent reading, and Silver dimes a slight bit higher than copper pennies and clad dimes..

 

[chuck ky]

when i used the whites 6000-di you could also tell a nickle from a pulltab. nickles would be dead center in the pulltab icon.

 

[EZrider]

Guys the Fishers can do that too, pull tab from a nickle, zinc from a copper penny etc. Some of us can even run the Disc all the way up and then go back and Notch back in what we want. What G silver wants to do is notch or discrim copper etc all the way up. He wants complete control over the machine. I have to be honest though that for fisher to do that is very specific to very few people. The majority rules on this one. Forget the wheat and pre 83 penny debate. Think about the King George copper coming out a colonial site. I don't see what the big deal is on hearing the Penny's though. Why not ignore it and don't dig? I think its safe to say that there is something that we will personally not like about every machine out there.

 

[chuck ky]

i can tell the nickles from the pulltabs on my cz-5 but not my 1270.