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fisher CZ3d

NO !!!!
 
I have never used the minelabs sov myself so can not speak on that one, I will say this....The CZ3d was designed for one purpose and that is older sites as you may know. I have used the 3d for some time now and simply love it. Like any unit you have to know what it is telling you and how it responds to certain items. I do feel it ID's coins much better at greater depths than most units and takes some of the guess work out of weather to dig or not. As far as depth goes, a dime at 8-10" is not a problem at all. Like all CZ, it is a nickle killer without a doubt. I find most so called hunted out sites pay very well in nickels alone much less all the other goodies I find they missed. The enhanced mode confuses some users in trashy parks but I have learned it and never take mine out of that mode. Do I dig junk? Sure I do sometimes..if you don't you are missing something I will bet. If you feel you will not be using the enhanced mode much, then I would not recommend it for you. It is all in learning the unit and feel this is one you either love or hate. I think it is greatly miss understood by many and if you are hunting trashy parks and such, it may not be for you. Out in a field with little trash, even when I was new to it... I feel it would run up there with some of the best. Your type of hunting would need to be the main decider and I feel the 3d is at it's best coin shooting. This is just my option, if you could find a CZ70, now that is the better all around hunter. Happy hunting and good luck, just know that even best detector is useless if you don't take the time to learn and understand it.
 
As you may know, it is very hard for any detector to ID very deep, old coins correctly. Many older coins will fall out of the coin range, especially copper, bass and bronze, when at greater depths. This is were the 3d is different in the enhanced mode. The 3d chances the way it ID"s items by moving or bumping up the ID's..so to speak. This is a great thing and again takes some of the guess work out of the iffy signals that would normally fall or bounce in a lower ID range. But here is the draw back in local parks, It will make the can slaw, and some of the older pull tabs read in the coin range. With a lack of a better term, it make the detector more sensitive to some items. These items will fool you at times until you learn the sounds, and read in the high coin range. A lot of it will come with learning to size the item and listening to the tones closer, as well as pinpointing sounds to name a few. I am sure someone on here could explain it much better than myself, but I did feel you deserved a answer. On the other side, larger gold rings and gold coins read as a high coin ID were most read them as trash. Some have no trouble with using the enhanced mode in parks, others hate to dig the trash and like better discrimination against junk. Myself, I never use discrimination anyway...all metal or no rejecting is the way to hunt. I would only recommed getting the 3d for the use of the enhanced mode, what it was designed for. If you don't feel you will use that mode often...then I would keep looking.

Out of respect I should mention again, I have never used the minelab sov. that you asked about, but I have heard many wonderful things about the depth of that detector. What the learning curve is or your experience should be considered. My best advice...see about renting or borrowing both of these machines and give them a try. Most here will admit, no one machine does it all....that is why most of us have a few detectors for different hunting locations and conditions. Good luck.
 
thanks ed in mo, it sound like a great unit. hell nobody likes to dig trash and junk but what can you do. do you use the small coils at trashy areas? right now i am working an old homestead that must a been the city dump at one time. its a slow process with a lot of digging.
 
Second reply..Seems like Ed knows his stuff.....Listen he's giving very good advice....On my CZ3D i dug tons of iron, and some nice signals too..But nothing as deep as my Sov.............not even close !! My hunting friend has a Cz70 and thats one awsome depth detecting detector. PS..I also noticed that past6 inches the CZ3D did not have any discrimination..You pretty much heard everything it went over. Now I am not saying it's a bad machine..it's not..in fact it's very good at what it does...........But it is not as deep as the Sov..................your original question
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thanks Elton, why iam so hell bent on depth is i live in Fla. and everything sinks in this sand. i need a unit that goes deep. and good disc. would be nice. iam just want to get the most bang for the buck. Ive checked out the minelab sov. at kellyco (i live about 5 miles away) the sov seems like a great unit also. do you have any experience with the advantage from minelab?
 
I have never found depth to be a problem with my cz3d, whether in the dirt or sand. In fact, I've dug several coins in the 8-10" range and most came through loud and clear. Don't let so called lack of depth be the deciding factor for not buying the cz3d because it does get great depth. HH jim tn
 
No Sir..but if you check with MXterer and Semperfi on this forum..I think they both have a lot of time on the advantage
 
Warren,The CZ3D is a very nice unit. I have owned and used two CZ7As,two CZ5s,CZ6A,CZ3D,ID Edge,ID Excel,Coin Strike,CZ20,1280,1260,1225x and currently use a 1236x as a backup.I usually use an older XS Sovereign with a 10 inch Tornado coil,180 meter,in-line sunray probe,and straight rod.The Sovereign will ID a silver dime at 12 inches(in the field finds) on the meter and by sound.Even with the lame 800 Tornado coil (7 inches) I have found dimes at over nine inches with strong signals.The Sovereign is probably the best beach unit made.I think CZs are great metal detectors but is outclassed by the Sovereign.The Sovereign used by a skilled hunter is probably one of the best metal detectors, none better period.
 
hey Ron, that says alot coming from a fisher man. my brother uses a cz5 also and he love that machine. he bought it years ago and still belives it the best unit made with the stuff he's found i can see why. i just think maybe newer tech means deeper machines. thanks for the info
 
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