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FISHER COINSTRIKE VS. ID EXCELL VS.MINELAB MUSKETEER ADVANTAGE

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How deep will each one go? Which is the best one for hunting in an iron infested environment?Which would be the best for competition hunts?Would a Minelab Sovereign be a good choice for me?I do like the Fishers lifetime warranty.My Fisher cz70 pro battery terminals broke and i'm going to the BONE show in Keene New Hampshire this coming weekend so i need a new land detector.I do prefer a metered machine though.
Thanks,
John B.
 
Both will go deep but I think the C$ will go the deepest. Both will do well in iron. In a competition hunt I would be tempted to use the Excel because it is so light. But I know that other detectors (especially an XLT) will "talk" to the Excel. I haven't used the Excel in a competion hunt but the C$ does great. I have both machines and would recommend the C$ first, but if the issues are budget related, I would go with the Excel in a heart beat. Good luck with whatever you choose.
 
The ID Excel is excellent in iron, one of the best there is IMHO. The Advantage lets a lot of iron bleed thru but it is very easy to tell its iron by the audio response, which can be a good thing for the relic guys. The C$ handles typical iron very well but does have a tendency to false on some stuff a bit more than I like but there again its easy to tell by the response. Getting a good ground balance is very important when hunting in heavy iron with the C$, it helps a lot to reduce falsing.
Depth is subjective, I have seen the Advantage go deep and also seen the C$ get stuff the Advantage won't signal on. Basically if you want max depth iron handling is going to suffer. The Excel strikes a good balance.
No machine is perfect and they all have there use. Today I grabbed the 1270 to hunt a cornfield where you can't keep the coil close to the ground. A little air between the coil and ground don't bother the 1270's depth! I wouldn't use any of the above machines in those conditions.
Tom
 
Hi, JS and Tony answered correctly.
In addition I would say the 1236X for competition, that's what it's made for. Complete with freq variance.
The ML Advantage is the best Iron reject machine I have witnessed, BUT it doesn't have the last inch of depth the CS does. The CS easily beats it when you hit the extremes.
The CS is the best relic machine of the lot.
I have no idea about the Excel.
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unless budget is the question then you can go wrong with the excel either.
But for my money, I would opt for a used CZ5 over the Excel. The CZ5 is a coin magnet. But I just wasn't real impressed with the Excel the little I used it.
HH,
Mike
 
Sounds like it might be factory set more negative than what you typically use on the C$. Do you have any clue what Fisher might have set it for by comparing it on small iron trash?? I suspect it is around -50 since most report it doesn't get the same depth and falses less than the C$ with the typical 525 setting.
 
JD,
I don't know if the sensitivity control on The Excel affects the gain or if it is threshold based. I do know it does not have the sensitivity the C$ has on small items and that the two detectors do not share any circuitry or software. There really is no way I can see that the C$ could be set up to operate as smooth in iron as the Excel. The more manufacturers push up the gain the more problems you have with iron from what I have seen.
Tom
 
JOHN B. said:
How deep will each one go? Which is the best one for hunting in an iron infested environment?Which would be the best for competition hunts?Would a Minelab Sovereign be a good choice for me?I do like the Fishers lifetime warranty.My Fisher cz70 pro battery terminals broke and i'm going to the BONE show in Keene New Hampshire this coming weekend so i need a new land detector.I do prefer a metered machine though.
Thanks,
John B.
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Hello John.
The musky lacks on the meter... and personally I do not like the musky as I had one and sold it very fast.
The Sovereign is a deep and very good detector but it's one of the slower type ones. And pinpointing is a mess, but a ID-meter is available.
Had a meter on the SOV GT and it worked very well as the tone ID did also. A great detector for land and beach use.
Cann't speak for the ID Excel, but if I had a chance to get a C$ I'd go with this. Had one for a few hours and yes, this would be the machine of choice.
The C$ also will also be great for land and beach huntings.

Good Luck and keep us posted on your decision.
 
Just wanted to point out that this is a pretty old thread. Interesting though. Always wanted to try the C$.
 
Found a new detecting spot today and dug so many clad coins with the CZ3d I got tied of digging coins the newest coin was 1998 stinking Lincoln the oldest was a 1966 stinking Lincoln. I have to clear the top layer of clad coins before I get the deep 1's, the deepest was 5"


mtdoramike said:
unless budget is the question then you can go wrong with the excel either.
But for my money, I would opt for a used CZ5 over the Excel. The CZ5 is a coin magnet. But I just wasn't real impressed with the Excel the little I used it.
HH,
Mike
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Hard to find any of these machines anymore

Coinstrike is quirky and has a learning curve the other two dont have. I had all three got best results with the advantage i wish i hadnt sold that
 
I can say that I have ran both detectors and own rhe C$ and a Sovereign XS DTI meter and probe.
My first preference is the C$ dont get me wrong digging many amazing coins crazy depth 8" coil using the Sovereign dead nuts on nickles.
But as far as a go to detector for coins I would grab the C$. I have full set of coils for the machine and it holds its own in iron areas.
 
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