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First time out with the Ace 250 - in a while

dahut

Active member
I lent out the little Ace throughout the last year, and when it was returned the final time, I simply packed it away with my other gear at the end of the water hunting season. I then took a deliberate hiatus, digging into my other favorite hobby - scale modeling.

But, the weather has warmed now, when young men's thoughts turn again to detecting, so I hauled the Ace from it's bag today. It was still broken down into sections and the bag was covered in dust. I cleaned everything off, hooked 'er all together and checked it out - the batteries were still at four bars! That's when I remembered the last guy to use it had put new cells in. So, outside I went and headed to the back of the yard. There is a fire pit back there for burning yard waste, where the boys and their hooligan friends have been hanging out all winter.

I turned on the Ace and started swinging easily, only to be buried by beeps and audio signals. I was in ALL METAL, just checking things out and getting the feeling back. Believe me, there was plenty of all sorts of metal. Most of it was foil and iron as you might expect and not a few beer bottle tops... none of them my brand, Im glad to say.

In and among this trash, though, were the nut items seen in the pic:

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I found little of value, but re-learned a few valued lessons. These things may help some of the newbs:

1. The Ace is a microprocessor controlled, motion detector.
This means you experience an analyis lag, from the time the coil passes over the signal to the time you get an audio response. This is most noticeable when you are swinging the coil quickly. Always double check and focus your sweeps over signals to give the processor time to work, but DO NOT hover your coil. As the name implies, there has to be motion in order for it to work...

2. The Ace is accurate.
Foil is foil and Zincers were just that, i.e., worthless. I did find a hoop of iron 12" in diamter that signalled as a coin... giving out about 18" above the ground! Pretty simple to determine that one wasnt a coin, but that reminds us that the Ace can be fooled, like any detector.

3. The three tone ID is nice.
In ALL METAL the three distinct tones are a boon. I did notice that targets which conduct in the zinc through Cu cent range will signal in both regimes.
Nearly all iron targets were on the dead bottom of the DISC band. What I'd love is a midrange tone from tab through zinc cent.

4. The Ace has a full coil "hot zone"
On shallow targets the entire coil, even an inch or so beyond, will register the presence of a target. This will give the newb fits on shallow targets until they realize this

5. The Ace will overload in the presence of multiple signals.
Thanks partly to the large Hot Zone, and the processor delays, this means lots of "false" beeping in a congested target matrix. You must slow down once you hit targets something and analyze each signal. A sniper coil will help in really trashy areas.

6. The Ace pinpoints easily without using the PP button
You just have to "see" the target in the center of the hot zone and work around that. Learning the old fashioned "X" Method will be an advantage with the Ace. It also helps to know that deep targets signal just in front of the notch in the middle of the coil - shallow ones will stop signaling near the tip of the coil as you waggle the coil back towards you. I add a little colored dot on the front tip of the coil to help visualize all of this:

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It was fun to get back into the "swing" and I'm looking forward to hitting it tomorrow. Hope you do.

Peace,
 
My coil didn't look that good an hour afterI started using my Ace 250. I don't even wanna talk about the goil on my GTI 2500. Get out and get that thing dirty!

Chris

Good post.
 
Oh it gets used, but not a ton. It has been sitting in storage this past 6 months, and that pic was when it was new.

I have several detectors and I must confess to the Congregation, there is another brand detector that I "go to" more often. That one is a dirty mess. But Im hauling the Ace 250 along here, in about ten minutes...
 
[quote cwilk]My coil didn't look that good an hour afterI started using my Ace 250. I don't even wanna talk about the goil on my GTI 2500. Get out and get that thing dirty!.[/quote]

Mine is still not too dirty. I keep a coil cover on all my coils (except for the sniper I got last week because the cover was on b/o). They claim that there is no loss of signal plus your coils will last longer. I don't know if it is true, but I did get a good deal on my larger covers and the sniper cover was free.
 
Very funny. I must admit though, it was my wife's sharp mind that picked it up.
It's good to see you back on deck Dave. Scale modelling sounds like a great way to spend those winter months.
Mick Evans.
 
Good to be here again. How's the gleanings down in Oz?
 
Pretty Good. I bought the 1500 a bit over a week back. Pulled up $32 in a park that I've never hunted before. About to go out with it again. Still figuring it out. Another 10 or 15 hours should give me a feel for the basics.
What era of scale modeling do you do?
Mick Evans.
 
My scale modeling is mostly WWII through Cold War aviation, 1940-1970. I have an especial fondness for the Century Series aircraft and Soviet jets.
There is just something both brutish and elegant about things like the F-100 or the Su-11. Todays jets, all pointy and grey just dont have the same verve, ya know?
I also like the odd armor model and the occasional Sci-Fi or Monster figure.
 
Great job:thumbup:
 
Good era. If memory serves me right, the F100 is the Super Sabre. I got a up close of it's predecessor the F86 last week end. It had most of the instruments ripped out of the cockpit though. Standing next to the canopy, looking back over the rest of the plane, I was surprised at how big it looked. parked in the hanger beside it, was a full sized flying replica of the Wright flier (B model I think). It was filmed by some yanks last year for a TV commercial.Both aircraft are based at Narromine, 40kms west of here.
Also at the fly in was an early Su. I didn't take in what the type was called, but it looks a lot like a British Aerospace "Hawk". It did a low fly over at around 250knots! VERY Impassive!
WWII is my favourite era, with the F4U as my all time favourite. I have quite an interest in WWI as well and hope to be able to fly some of those as park flyer's down the track.
Anyway, I guess we're probably too far of subject for the boys here, but at least I can use my finds money to pay for the above mentioned interests.
Mick Evans.
 
Now theres an idea, too! Using finds for models, hmmmmm.
 
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