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First impressions of GT

Don't remember but Crazyman probably does since I think he turned me on to those. I think they might be called VM-20 Studio Phones or something. $20 and on the shelf at most stores. If you search back in this forum you'll find some threads on them from several months back. Look for a thread called "Cheap Headphones" or something.

I tried the Grey Ghosts and I didn't like them at all myself. Big, bulky, uncomfortable, but more than anything they seemed to have a real flat tone response. Stuff sounded too similar to each other for me. Sort'a muffled in quality.

On the Sun Rays- I may look into those since I think you said (?) they have a limiter circuit to avoid surface blasts. Can you still tell that those are shallow targets compared to the audio of deeper stuff, and how do you like the audio?
 
Thanks, Critter. That was Kered who said he uses the Sunray gold pros and from what I've read they may be the best. That limiter with full volume seems like the way to go. I think I did read that they could be too warm in hot weather.
James
 
@ Critterhunter, the sunrays are the best phones i have tried on the sovereign/explorer/etrac, crisp clear sound and they cut out the background noise very well, 26db (you can still hear voice through them if talking to someone close, handy at times) Very comfy with leather muffs they sit nicely, the only drawback is they get sweaty in the warm weather but i put up with it as the sound quality is worth it.

The limiter doesn't affect the fainter sounds and you can still tell when a target is deep, the limiter only cuts in at a certain db and above, once the limiter cuts in you can tell its working by the sound so you can also tell the difference between a medium target and a surface/big one as for all the volume is the same it has a distinct sound. I have used them in torrential rain, snow and any other combo of weather mother nature throws out to no ill effect, the switches come with waterproof toggle boots and the independent volume controls are notched so they don't move(handy if you have bad hearing on one side).
I have two sets as one set only has a dodgy lead in the plug after more than a years use of at least 3 times a week(probably my fault) they still work fine on detectors other than minelab so i keep them on the f75 till i get round to fixing the plug.
As with any change of headphones they take a bit of time to get used to.
 
Thanks for the info. May pick those up in the future. These Sonys are a must on hot days and very comfortable. Just don't like being blasted by surface targets if I crank the volume all the way up.
 
Hey Critterhunter, i just swapped my F75 for an almost new GT, straight shaft with 10x12 SEF and sunrayprobe( hope its better than the last GT i used) so i will probably need some of your new battery mod info, i'll try to fit the lipos i have first though.
 
Great deal there. Just let me know what you need to know if anything about the lipos. I think I gave you a link (?) to them. They are the 750ma Rhinos I believe. Anything larger was too fat. I measured the width of a AA battery and of course the battery chamber length/width wise. I then went through EVERY single battery page on HobbyKing until I found the biggest that would fit. While most would fit no problem length/width wise with plenty of room to spare, the width was the main problem. It ended up being those 750ma 3 cell packs being the largest that would fit. I still haven't stuck them in yet to be sure the numbers were right, though, but I can tell you that the battery case will flex out a bit if need be for a slightly larger pack. My 500ma packs were a bit fat due to prior velcro a friend had on them yet the holder would slide/flex over them without any problems. When you slide the cover open you'll need to lift up on the one edge to get the cover all the way off. Now you can see the wires in there that go to the contacts. I just stripped off a bit of the wire insulation and then soldered my JST plug to them that way, rather than soldering to the solder points. Cut a hole in the plastic wall where the empty "charge" circuit would go if that were like the rechargable pack's holder. Now when using normal AAs just stick your plug in that little empty box on the side, and when using a lipo just move the plug through the cut hole in the wall to plug into your lipo. Easy as pie.

Please let me know how you like that 12x10 SEF coil and how it compares in depth to the 10" as well as the 15x12, if you (?) had a 15x12 on your Sovereigns before. I still want to get one of those because like I said (beating a dead horse again here) I think the 15x12 might be seeing too much ground in my medium to heavy minerals at most of my sites and thus be getting less depth than the 10". I still have to prove that one way or the other in the field since I found out I was running sensitivity way too high. Thus far the 10" (beating dead horse again, sorry) has got me my deepest coins on any machine using any coil, and those I think were each about 11" deep with perfect ID and audio. Maybe the 12x10 is about the biggest I can go in my soil in size while still getting more depth for it. Despite all that even if the 15x12 isn't as deep as that coil or the 10" in my soil I still love this thing for seperation and coverage. And, the GT using this coil is still deeper than just about any other machine on the market anyway. That's what I call rationalizing logic. :biggrin:
 
Critter, I think mineralization may have a lot to do with it. I seem to get better depth with the S-8 than the 10 inch Tornado in my ground. The S-8 loves deep silver dimes and I'm even using it more and more as my beach coil also.
 
Its a shame i don't have the 15x12 for the sov any more to do a direct comparison but i can do it with the wot 15 as i still have that on the XS2apro and the 15x12 was better(here for me), i've also got a couple of your coins(dimes etc) i found recently so maybe i can use them to give you a better idea than with our local currency as i've found that your coins sing out real good compared to ours.
 
Kered, really looking forward to hearing if you think the 12x10 is deeper than the 15x12 (from memory) and also compared to the WOT. What kind of minerals do you have? If they are low then the WOT or 15x12 might be deeper on coins/rings, but if they are high then the 12x10 might get deeper. Like said, it might be that the 12x10 is deeper than the 10" in high minerals, yet anything bigger would get less depth.

Crazyman, that sounds about right to me. Now I'm wondering if an 8" might even get deeper than my 10" at most of my high mineral sites. Not all the ground around here is high in minerals but a lot is at least medium to high in minerals. We have some areas that are heavy limestone clay and high in minerals. Any kind of clay also doesn't conduct coin halos as well as a good black stop soil. We've got good black top soil in a lot of places too, and those spots are usualy where the minerals are lower but not always. Then we've got shale and other forms of rocky soil. What stinks is many of the local buildings had the good black top soil stripped off and sold by the contractor who built the place. Makes it hard for the grass to grow because it's all limestone clay soil that's left. I don't want to make it sound like when don't have diverse soil conditions around here in the Northeast. Many good spots with fine black soil. Just that there are also plenty of spots with high minerals and/or clay.
 
Not sure on what minerals are present but the etrac with stock coil is down to 16-18 in auto on some of them(not that i use auto much just a guide to see what i'm up against) , funny enough its the replenished beaches in the estuaries that are the worst, others run at 22ish.
As to the 10x12 being deeper than the 12x15 i doubt it as on the etrac its not, having said that the 15x18 isn't much different to the 12x15 depth wise, i have to run it lower on the sense on the same beach, time will tell
 
I'm not sure how you are carrying your meter but when I had my GT, I swapped the upper rod out with an s-shaped rod scavenged from a Minelab Advantage detector. I mounted my 180 meter onto the top side of the rod with one of the V-brackets that were used on the older Sovereign models. In fact, the bracket might have already been there but I can't remember for sure. I chest mounted the control box. After trying many different configurations, I found this to be the most comfortable to use for long hunts.

HH, Crispy Critter
 
Thanks for those comments, Crispy Critter. I'm tending to like chest mounting also. Since I'm hoping to eventually just use tones, I may keep the meter on the straight shaft a little out of easy view. I've also been thinking about some sort of solar charger if anyone has any ideas on that I would like to hear them. Thanks,
James
 
jamesinwesttexas said:
I've also been thinking about some sort of solar charger if anyone has any ideas on that I would like to hear them. Thanks,
James
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I like that idea........interesting.
 
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