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First impression...the mighty Compadre!

DiGGER27

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Picked up a great used Compadre from Skiwhiz this week and I did a small review on another forum.
Very interesting so I thought I would repost over here.
I bought this as a hyper sensitive unit to find all those tiny small pieces that my other detectors might miss, and I was not disappointed!

One short and sweet hunt...one great first impression below.



Got my Compadre from Skiwhiz today.
Thanks Steve...a pleasure to do business with you and hope to do it again sometime!

He has had them before, and even though this one is the older style with the 7 inch coil, Steve said this one seems to be just as sensitive to very small items as the smaller coil units, it just seems to go a little further.

I say great!
I bought this because I think everyone should have one of these as a specialty unit for tot-lots to find those hard to scan tiny studs, fine gold chains and many other situations and sites.
Also my fiance says the F2 was too heavy with her bum shoulder, so maybe this might work for her.
She wants to try, anyway.

I took it next door to a park that I have hit a bazillion times, but it does have a tot-lot and a few other areas that I hunt from time to time when I don't feel like going far and don't have a lot of time.

I started at a grassy area that I have drained of clad, but there is always more to find because no site is ever truly hunted out.
This area was a good place to test the accuracy of the discriminator.
I got a few signals and thumbed that disc trying to figure out the targets.
One disced out right at the tab mark.
Dug it and it was a tab.
Another was a quarter and this thing hit hard.
I ran out of the house so fast to test my new purchase, I forgot my headphones.
I like the fact that this is not a super loud speaker, and I also think the low tone on this Tesoro does seem sort of pleasant.
In honesty, I do prefer the high tone of my Vaquero.
Not because I can tell a difference in whisper signals or anything like that, yet, I just think it sounds a little nicer, or maybe I am just used to it.
Because I was not using the phones, the strong tones on this detector made the unit vibrate a littlein my hand.
I was surprised by this, it was sort of like using my Propointer.
I could not disc this signal out, I raised the coil to figure the depth and surmised this might be a quarter and shallow and checked it with my Propointer and dug a quarter 1 1/2 inch deep.
Nice.
Though out this short hunt I really liked the fact that the few coins I found and all the trash seemed to really seem spot on on the disc settings, I have experience with my Vaq, but this one seemed a little tighter, a little more precise.
Almost like a fine tuner.
Maybe it's the smaller coil, or the true 180 ED disc rage vs the 160 on the Vaq,(160 ED in reality according to Monty and other guru's), or just the way this unit works with the different circuitry vs my Vaq.
All I know is this seems to be the perfect weapon in those areas where surgical precision is required instead of the big guns,(coils).
I think I can get the hang of this thing pretty quick, and I can't wait to get good with it.

Pinpointing was similar to my Vaq, but took me a bit to get the sweet spot down.
This is a solid coil and I never used this kind before.
The old eye-ear coordinaton took a little time to adjust, but I finally started hitting target center after awhile.
Just another thing to learn, and learning new things is great fun in this hobby.

One thing I noticed is that I had to supertune my propointer a lot more on this hunt than usual, and this ground was very dry and rock hard in some areas.
That was unusual...I was digging targets a little deeper than usual, and in my very difficult soil in bone dry ground I was surprised.
I will have to bring out all the detectors and give them all the same signal depth test one day, but I was getting to like this thing more and more as the targets were acquired and dug.
Even the trash.

Hit a few other areas getting more experience and playing with the disc knob and eventually I moved to the tot lot that I clean regularly.

Dug a few shallow coins and some pretty deep trash.
I noticed I could not get real close to the big metal stuff at all.
The sensitivity on this thing seems to be maxed and I know I can get a bit closer with my Vaq and F2 no matter how big of a coil I have on them.
Plus those units have a sensitivity adjustment, this one doesn't.
I wanted high sensitivity on this thing and I seemed to have gotten it.
I will gladly give up the getting-close-to big metal thing for a chance to find that small gold stud or fine chain, one day.

Then, something happened to cause me to fall in love with my new baby.
I was set below iron but not all the way to all metal, and I got a solid tone.
It repeated...kept repeating and disced out just a little higher on the disc knob.
I got down and dug and had real trouble finding the target.
It was not deep, and my propointer would sound off and on as I moved it around in those chips, but this was one of those tiny things that I can hardly even see let alone find unless the propointer is actually touching it.
I finally found it and I was floored.
It is in this picture of the clad I found tonight below...

Did you miss it?
Check out the closeup.


That's right, one lone bead from a small chain, and after further testing at home, my other two detectors won't pick this up at all with their present larger coils.
Every time I run over this here at home I still get that same solid tone.
Not like the quarter hit, but I would dig this solid signal every time.
Sllingshot, who is very good with this, says he has picked up the ball in ball point pens with his, and I believe it!

If you remember, I stated even the propointer needed to touch this thing to sound off.

Now I am very impressed!
I will continue to hunt and test an learn with my wonderful new detector, and I would like to say that for those of you that think this is a toy or just good as only a starter detector, I think I would have to disagree.
This thing is a power packed brain coupled with a tiny little body.
Looks can be deceiving.
I am going to use this on my next few hunts and see where it leads.
Some precious metals I hope...big or small size doesn't seem to matter to this thing.

Let the games begin!

HH
 
Thanks for the great review. If you hunt trashy areas with the Vaquero and don't have a 5.75 coil for it, get one, you'll be impressed.
 
Hmmm here is how close I can get to the bars with my compadre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgbE9vu0rn8

Maybe your sensitivity pot was turned up further than stock?
 
Thanks for the details of your report! I like to read a report and be able to "see" the scenes and "smell" the dirt! One of the best I've ever read and excellent if you're just starting out and can only afford a Compadre and may be using it for a loooooong time. Also good for those who are considering it for a back up machine.

Any more reports or updates would be appreciated!
 
DetectorOCD said:
Hmmm here is how close I can get to the bars with my compadre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgbE9vu0rn8

Maybe your sensitivity pot was turned up further than stock?
Yep. Mine,too. I can slow the sweep speed to almost nothing and get a little closer. It will still get a coin just hardly moving.
 
Nope, I will check it again next time I get out, but I can't get near the big metal so maybe the sense is turned up internally.
Got this from Skiwhiz who did not touch the inside and only used it for one hour, the guy who he bought it from...who knows?

I did some air testing and I am getting quarters at 6", dimes and pennies at about 5.-5.5". nickels at 7" and gold rings (large) at 7" smaller gold at 6".

Is this normal for nickels to go further than other coins and gold to go so far?

Not complaining, and I am into tech and would have no problem getting inside this thing and doing some fiddling, but it seems to be set up exactlly the way I would like it to be to look for jewelry...especially gold.
 
I do not own one, but have read up a lot on them. I believe it is because the frequenzy they use (12 kHz). They seem to have found the exact "sweet spot" for gold and nickels. Even compared to other Tesoros. I may be way off, but that's my 2 cents :)
 
DiGGER27 said:
Nope, I will check it again next time I get out, but I can't get near the big metal so maybe the sense is turned up internally.
Got this from Skiwhiz who did not touch the inside and only used it for one hour, the guy who he bought it from...who knows?


I did some air testing and I am getting quarters at 6", dimes and pennies at about 5.-5.5". nickels at 7" and gold rings (large) at 7" smaller gold at 6".

Is this normal for nickels to go further than other coins and gold to go so far?

Not complaining, and I am into tech and would have no problem getting inside this thing and doing some fiddling, but it seems to be set up exactlly the way I would like it to be to look for jewelry...especially gold.
Yes the Compadre will hit further on the lower conductors. I did not touch the sensitivity pot.,but I did peak inside and noticed that the sens. is close to being at max. If you want to monkey around with the sens. you will need a small regular type screwdriver (not a philips type) and turning the pot that is on the top of the board counterclockwise increases the sens. and turning it clockwise decreases the sens. (just the opposite of what a person would think). Any time I play around with the sen. pot. I take the battery out then I open the faceplate adjust the pot. in very small increments, put the faceplate back on then install the battery,test it & repeat if needed. Turning it up too far can/will make it noisy. Like I said it is close to max position.
 
Well then!
Close to max position is just the way I like it!
Took it out for just a few minutes tonight and had a bit of falsing, but nothing big deal so I think we will make a very nice team.
I will know more on Sunday after a decent hunt.

Thanks Steve!
Good info!
 
sandtrout said:
Thanks for the details of your report! I like to read a report and be able to "see" the scenes and "smell" the dirt! One of the best I've ever read and excellent if you're just starting out and can only afford a Compadre and may be using it for a loooooong time. Also good for those who are considering it for a back up machine.

Any more reports or updates would be appreciated!


No problem, Sandtrout!
Still loving my Vaq as I know you are too, and still learning.
Bought this one as that tot-lot killer everyone keeps talking about, and due to my Vaq experience should be pretty easy to get used to.
I can tell you it is a fun little unit and we are gonna have some good times together in the future...I can already tell.

Thanks for the kind words, I find I love to write and some say I have a little ability to get my ideas and observations across in a pretty entertaining fashion.
A little review thread I started on the other forum after I got my F2 and still add to as I learn that one has gotten a little attention over the last few months...
About 8500 views and still rising every day.
I get PM's all the time from people asking me questions because they think I know what I am talking about.
Fooled em all, evidently! lol!
I just like to tell the other users what I know and learn as I learn it to cut down on the learning curve a little cause it makes me feel good to help.
Several people bought the F2 because of that thread, were very happy they did and are surpassing me in great finds, which makes me very happy indeed!

Maybe I have started the same thing here with the Compadre.
I will post things as I learn them, don't you worry.
I have a big mouth!

HH
 
It picks up my 10k wedding band at 8". Yesterday I went out and found several nickels. I had the disc set at just past "iron" for a test run-got a weak signal and it was a nickel at 2". Apparently this nickel would have read close to iron, so I moved the disc knob back to the "o" in iron. This is about as high as I can go without picking up the "flake" foil pieces. No telling how many nickels (rings, too) are being missed.
 
slingshot said:
It picks up my 10k wedding band at 8". Yesterday I went out and found several nickels. I had the disc set at just past "iron" for a test run-got a weak signal and it was a nickel at 2". Apparently this nickel would have read close to iron, so I moved the disc knob back to the "o" in iron. This is about as high as I can go without picking up the "flake" foil pieces. No telling how many nickels (rings, too) are being missed.


Wish I could do a Vulcan Mind Meld on you and suck out all that experience to get a running start at this, but reading your posts will have to do for now, I guess!
Keep posting, I read everything you write about this fine little machine.
 
My first detector was the Compadre with the 7" coil. I wish I hadn't sold it. If and when I run into another, I'll probably buy it if the price is reasonable.
BB
 
DiGGER27 said:
slingshot said:
It picks up my 10k wedding band at 8". Yesterday I went out and found several nickels. I had the disc set at just past "iron" for a test run-got a weak signal and it was a nickel at 2". Apparently this nickel would have read close to iron, so I moved the disc knob back to the "o" in iron. This is about as high as I can go without picking up the "flake" foil pieces. No telling how many nickels (rings, too) are being missed.


Wish I could do a Vulcan Mind Meld on you and suck out all that experience to get a running start at this, but reading your posts will have to do for now, I guess!
Keep posting, I read everything you write about this fine little machine.
He he he. Thanks. Basically, I'm stuck between the "i" in "iron" and the "o" If I were a coinshooter, I would be in front of the "f" in "foil" It's that simple. The rest is getting a good pinpoint so I can quickly recover the target. I never know what I'm gonna find, but if I were a coinshooter I would "size" the target by the sound at these low levels. Of course, tabs will sound "coin-size" also. You find out by practice and accident. For instance, I have some iron-ore rocks that will cause a signal at near all metal, but at the "o" in "iron" the Compadre kinda "rides" over them with the threshhold not breaking and thus I learned to use that setting in these rough places. I'm afraid I don't have the patience of the Tabdog-who got me started-for some places. I'm gonna have to build up some more resolve and tackle some trashy places, but it's too hot now and I'm sticking to the regular places I've found over the years.
 
I hope Tabdog is ok, he hasn't been around for awhile.
That guy should write a book. Decades of experience with pin finders is learning that most of us never will have.
When it comes to sounds and the Compadre, I don't know of anyone better.

I have several different kinds of sites I frequent, a couple of old parks in Birmingham are so trashy in areas I have to clean out 15-20 pop tops, pull tabs and other garbage out of a one foot square area just to get some clean ground to balance my Vaq.
It's like there never was a trash can in the area for 90 years!
I have read posts from some guys that complain about trash every few feet and I laugh.
I know there is probably some good stuff under this blanket of trash so I keep returning to clean out parts and try to find some.
I can't wait to try this one at these sites...just might be able to snake through the garbage with this setup.
Or at least recognize and avoid the hundreds of pop tops that blanket these areas.
Every time I bring a different detector to my old sites I seem to get surprised.
I hope this is the case with the Compadre.
 
DiGGER27 said:
slingshot said:
It picks up my 10k wedding band at 8". Yesterday I went out and found several nickels. I had the disc set at just past "iron" for a test run-got a weak signal and it was a nickel at 2". Apparently this nickel would have read close to iron, so I moved the disc knob back to the "o" in iron. This is about as high as I can go without picking up the "flake" foil pieces. No telling how many nickels (rings, too) are being missed.

One thing I have noticed...10K will be picked up a little further than 14k.
A large gold14k band and a much thinner 10k band were exactly the same.
My huge 10k class ring find was way further.
Also as you move the disc knob higher you lose a bit of depth, but most people know that, already.

I will probably will keep this knob, dig it all like usual and see how things sort out.
As I said, this seems to have a very precise fine tuning disc knob, not much slop or bleed over so that part I am loving.
 
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