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Finds from the Vegie Patch:ausflag::detecting:

Ken (Australia)

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Got out yesterday afternoon for a couple of hours to a site I've just been given permission to hunt. It's an old Chinese market garden. During the late 1800's and in some places well up into the 1900's many Australian towns had a Chinese market garden that supplied fresh fruit and vegetables. The area I hunted had just been plowed and sown down and the number of broken bottles on top of the ground indicated a building had once been close by. The bottles were all applied top and indicated late 1800's to early 1900's. Finishsed up with an English halfpenny 1882, sixpence 1869, two Chinese cash coins and a few relics. Tomorrow morning I'm going back to have a look at the second house site on the other side of the creek. Thanks for looking.....Ken.
 
Jeezzz, Ken, some more great stuff. I love that old faucet. It looks old to me, at least. Great, stuff, and that's exciting that you find these really old sites like you do. You must do quite a bit of research and surveying of these sites. I'm very impressed at that and the fact that your also finding the great, old stuff, too. Good job. Marc Trainor.
 
Hello Marc. I enjoy doing the research. Looking for old photo's and maps and reading the local history. Most people I ask for permission to hunt are obliging and some even interested in whats found. I rarely get knocked back. I took some photo's of the garden showing the earth works, levee bank and irrigation ditches but somehow seem to have deleted them. Amazing stuff considering it was all done by hand and horse drawn equipment. This mornings finds from the garden were pretty scarce, 1882 halfpenny, a nice 1913 florin and part of an opium pipe. Thought there would have been more coins but thats how it goes sometimes. Thanks for looking...Ken.:ausflag:
 
Ken,

I really like the finds.

Who knows where some market gardeners hid their gold Sovereigns, but you can usually bet it would be somewhere close by.

Thanks for showing.

David Di :ausflag:
 
I've been told by several people that a number of years ago a paddock that had been a market garden in a nearby town was plowed and a number of sovereigns came to the surface.
 
Hello Ken. You are doing well with your old coins finds keep up the good finding. I find a lot of pipes and bongs used for all types of drug use on the beaches and also a puff or two. All the best. Stan. from Australia.
 
Thanks for the reply, too, Ken. That pipe looks really old, or maybe it's jut really weathered or well used. Really cool stuff. Take care, Marc.
 
Hello Ken. I'm very excited for you at finding an old chinese garden marjet, and the relics are proof that there should be many more coins and other relics to be found. You might have heard, or read an old post of mine, but I did a bit of reseacrch in an area fairly remote, which happened to be the site of an old Chinese settlement. Two of the known roasting kilns have been documented, but a third is not known about. We found a third chinese oven. It was under a mound of dirt, and when I dug away at it, uncovered an old oven, intact, made of local stone, and the ash was still there, spilling out of the bottom exit hole, down the hillside! Above and to the side of this oven, were several building sites, one, I suspect, might have been a temple site (most likely made of old canvas, considereing the remote area, and small plot). After a few days detecting, we uncovered over 170 chinese coins and a late 1880's silver shuilling! What a hoard! Plus other relics like your opium bottles, tins, and opium pipe rests. I even found an old intact, round, brown glazed soy sauce pottery urn or jar. So after reading your post on the market garden, you're bound to find more stuff. I think if the ground has been ploughed, a lot of relics and coins may be bauried deeper. If your allowed to, why not concentrate on an area of say, 4x4ft square, dig down to a foot, remove the dirt, and run your detector over it, and the mound of dirt. You should pick up more targets. Then it's just a matter of working the ground, bit by bit, like that, and replacing the dirt. I've worked ground like this before, but not so deep, and reaped the rewards for the effort. Happy hunting!
Golden:detecting:
 
Golden I gotta say something here!!! You know me well, and the fact that I've only found a bottle or two in my whole life versus the kind of stuff you guys are finding in these areas. I recently read or am kind of still reading one of Charles Garret's books, who I still consider a major player as far as being one of the for runners of detector design plus being a very serious detectorist himself. He has a chapter in the book that talks about archeology and how a lot of the archaeologists kind of "shun" the metal detector as being a valid tool in the realm of archeology to some degree, but you know from what I'm reading here, to a "large degree", I think they're missing a very good tool to lead them to some of the non metallic items that they may be looking for. He touches on the same thing that your doing in effect. Your looking for metallic items, coins, brackets, spoons, (whatever) but in the process your finding clay ovens, bottles, and all kinds of other terrific relics. I think these archaeologists ought to "wake up" to the fact that a metal detector can be a good tool in their arsenal. Marc Trainor.
 
There's a program I've been watching in part, on a Monday night, about archeologists digging up old fortress and building sites in Scotland. And they sometimes use a metal detector to pick up iron age relics. The thing is, I can never seen one close enough on the telly to tell what detector they're using! Hopefully on one program, they'll do a close-up of one!
Golden:)
 
Golden, I'm glad that they're at least using "some kind" of a metal detector, and not ignoring such a wonderful tool for metallic excavation.
 
a small Australian schoolchild was handed this peace medal to commemorate the end of the war to end all wars. If only it had been true. Other Chinese cash coin dates 1661 to 1722. Thanks for looking....Ken.:ausflag:
 
Nice finds Ken. The chinese coin takes me back to when I found my first one! The medal is very interesting, and a great find.:)
 
Right on Ken. You're obviously doing the right thing, and in my mind at least, one of them is doing your research. You know, I feel the same way, about that research thing. I never was that interested in history until I got a metal detector, then it takes on a whole new meaning, something that means something close to what I'm trying to do. Thanks for the post and I think you've encouraged others to do the same.:|
 
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