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Finally an Indian Head cent

BigTony

BigTony

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Finally an Indian Head cent - 1905 - just crazy the darn thing danced across the screen from right to left but below where dimes and pennies display.

I had asked folks here awhile back about where they land because I wasn't finding them. Someone said to check out the sticky notes top of the forum.
I read that many times before and have to say this bounce wasn't from low right to almost top left (Under the cent) as in the sticky notes.
So I am wondering if those sticky notes were from an Explorer XS or my Explorer is set up a little different.
No brag or complaint just plain happy. Funny it the little things that make us happy.
 
Awesome Tony! I've seen two Indians do the walk up the stairs,it's unmistakeable. Great find,go find more!
 
IDXmonster, that's just the thing....it wasn't stairs....it went straight across from right to left.....just glad I was watching the screen
 
BigTony --

Great job!

I don't hunt with the smartfind screen, I use the numbers. However, there is obviously direct correlation between the two. Most of the Indians I dig hit very much like a deep zinc penny. Conductive number is usually around 24-25, sometimes as low as 23 on a deep one. That would be, like you said, toward the top of the screen but below a penny. On the ferrous side, the deeper Indians' FE number usually varies from the high single digits up into the teens, bouncing back and forth between these values as I sweep repeatedly over the target -- which would equate to left-and-right bouncing of the cursor on the smartfind screen. So, it sounds to me like what you experienced is what I'd expect, based on the numbers I usually get on a deep Indian. I'm guessing yours was 6-7" deep, based on the behavior on your screen? A shallower one, say 3-4", would usually be much more stable of an ID (i.e. very close to the air-test value which for me is most often around 07-24 or so). A deeper one (8-10") would be more bouncy and unstable ID-wise, most times.

Steve
 
Yes, they can bounce varying degrees. Nothing is written in stone as the stickies give you an idea not a guarantee.
There are things like surrounding iron, soil, and angle of coin in soil that all can play a part in exactly how they translate onto the screen.
Nice job on recovering it for the save. Now you have a good idea to what to exspect. Keep in mind things vary though.
Deep bouncers are ones to go after/investigate as many times they are the real deeper keepers.
 
Steve, most times I would agree, they should be deep.
This one was 3 inches down and came in at a 07 26 - plain penny signal for Fer/Cond numbers.
This field has red clay base but when it is very wet I do find targets that are deeper. So this find was a good surprise that I wasn't expecting because of the depth.
 
Thanks Mike, I have always investigated those bouncers as in your sticky and this time the movement left to right made me think of exactly what you wrote about them bouncing.
I just wasn't expecting it this time because it was that deep.

I understand about not written in stone - everyone's soil is different. Everyone's settings are different too.

Once again - I thank you and others on this forum for their assistance - it is a terrific site with a great bunch of folks who want others to succeed.

All the best!
 
Big Tony you are inspiring me to find my first Indian. Trust me Ill let you guys know when I find mine. Great find.
 
Nice job Tony!! The days are gone when you used to find 10-12 Indians in a day! Or are they....
 
BigTony --

For me, a classic, shallow copper penny hit is 04-28 or 05-28. A zinc penny is usually 07-24 or 07-25. Indians will hit very close to how zinc pennies hit -- as you found out -- if they are shallow. When they are deeper, the FE number will bounce higher most times. I think now that you have dug one, you will know what you are looking for...

Steve
 
Steve, 4-28 5-28 shallow or deep are usually memorials where I hunt. Zincs come in at the 7-23 to 7-26. So it must be the dirt or mineralization here to make numbers different.

Thanks for the tips - I will be investigations those deeper penny hits in the future.
 
BigTony said:
IDXmonster, that's just the thing....it wasn't stairs....it went straight across from right to left.....just glad I was watching the screen
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Textbook Indian cent behavior, left to right bounce, a touch lower and to the right of zinc cents. They can ID even lower on the screen, the deeper and more green and corroded they are the worse the ID gets. I once hunted this old field, today its a scrub sports field, but was a park back in the 1800's. Oldest coin found there an 1833 Bust dime. Indians are deep there, DEEEEEP so deep its ridiculous how deep. But the soil turns them to hard crusted green slugs. I hadn't dug a single one of them, then I was told to ignore the ID and just dig non iron signals the ID'd deep on the meter, started digging 8 inch and deeper targets and hundreds of Indians popped out of the ground. All utterly destroyed mind you, good coin details on one side, thick hard green crust obliterated the other side.

Note: If you go out to do a dig deep targets only hunt be advised the coil has to be centered over the target for an accurate depth reading, if you are off center it will read deeper than it really is. Larger deep targets you may find at those depths, say a large cent or brass shoe tip, being larger they will read a bit shallower than they really are. The depth meter seems calibrated to about a cent size targets, larger targets inaccurately read shallower than they are, smaller targets inaccurately read deeper than they are. Turning Deep ON and Fast OFF will aid in the deep only type hunt.
 
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