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Field test...SUNRAY X-8 Coil:super:
- Thread starter Hotcz70
- Start date
Very Nice Bryce,Thanks for the testing and the results.A lot of time and effort put into that i'm sure,and cold to boot.
Is that the new findmall Jacket?
Great finds,and thanks once again for the info,The X-8 sounds like it would be a great addition to every ones coil line.
It makes a lot of sense to use the right tool for the job as they say.
If the X8 pulls more finds,it will be a great seller.
Now,Wheres the best place to buy them?
Harold Reese
Is that the new findmall Jacket?
Great finds,and thanks once again for the info,The X-8 sounds like it would be a great addition to every ones coil line.
It makes a lot of sense to use the right tool for the job as they say.
If the X8 pulls more finds,it will be a great seller.
Now,Wheres the best place to buy them?
Harold Reese
Gold Nuggets
New member
Nice job Bryce and a well written review of the
Sunray X-8 coil. I have never used the X-8, but
after reading your review, I think I will look into
getting one for my arsenel to compliment and
enhanse my Explorer SE finds. Thanks and keep
posting those finds......it helps keep the treasure
fever alive and kicking. Gold Nuggets
Sunray X-8 coil. I have never used the X-8, but
after reading your review, I think I will look into
getting one for my arsenel to compliment and
enhanse my Explorer SE finds. Thanks and keep
posting those finds......it helps keep the treasure
fever alive and kicking. Gold Nuggets
Hi Bryce----Got a question for you.---Which of the following coils do you like the best & why?---The Sunray X-8 or the 6X8 SEF?----I think that little SEF coil is a real "killer", I ended up selling my X-8 & went to it.----I always respect your opinion & was just wondering what your opinion of those two coils is (as far as one haveing any real advantage over the other)?---------Thanks, Del
Thanks...and I appreciate your respect. It means a lot to me
Fact is... that there's no way I could give an honest opinion unless I personally did some side by side comparisons.
I only have two arms
...not enough personal hunt time
...too much of a workload...too many coils...and not enough hours in the day.
I do some very strenuous, thorough, and time consuming testing when I field test these coils. I'm not out to push one coil over another...that's definitely not my objective. I'm only going to report the unbiased and truthful results of what my testing shows me.
From that point on...it's up to you fellers' to decide what you think will work best for you.
Fact is... that there's no way I could give an honest opinion unless I personally did some side by side comparisons.
I only have two arms
...not enough personal hunt time...too much of a workload...too many coils...and not enough hours in the day.I do some very strenuous, thorough, and time consuming testing when I field test these coils. I'm not out to push one coil over another...that's definitely not my objective. I'm only going to report the unbiased and truthful results of what my testing shows me.
From that point on...it's up to you fellers' to decide what you think will work best for you.
I enjoyed the article! Nice pics too!!
I remember back in '07, the X-8 was the first additional coil purchase I made. And, IMHO, it was a very good decision. I'm pretty sure I found close to 200 silvers with that coil. I remember going back to trashy zones in the parks where I had pulled many oldies from with my stock coil, then hitting those areas with the X-8. That X-8 sure informed me that I missed quite a few deepies next to trash targets with the stock coil back then. I was able to run the 8" hot too (30 sens.). I know it hits deeper than the 5" coil. I did comparisons with my buddies between them. It's remarkably deep.
Take care,
Dan
CAPTN SE
I remember back in '07, the X-8 was the first additional coil purchase I made. And, IMHO, it was a very good decision. I'm pretty sure I found close to 200 silvers with that coil. I remember going back to trashy zones in the parks where I had pulled many oldies from with my stock coil, then hitting those areas with the X-8. That X-8 sure informed me that I missed quite a few deepies next to trash targets with the stock coil back then. I was able to run the 8" hot too (30 sens.). I know it hits deeper than the 5" coil. I did comparisons with my buddies between them. It's remarkably deep.
Take care,
Dan
CAPTN SE
Jack Flynn
New member
I'll have to say that no matter which coil I try I always go back to my X 8. I'm running the X 5, X8,and X12 most of the time on any hunt. They are very nice well built coils and after all with Ralph right here on the forum I don't think there is any way you could go wrong running one of them. Great test Bryce....
HaroldILL.
Active member
I bought one last year for my E-trac. It has been my favorite coil since! It is lite seperates good and is deep. I dug a couple 10" barber and merc. dimes with it!
be able to test and try all these different coils. I am just amazed at what little traits each coil has that helps it "find" coins other coils might miss.
It involves many, many hours of swapping machines...changing coils...experimenting...flagging targets...hunting very pounded sites...crummy weather...etc....but man what I have learned
Should be a very interesting 2010
Take care my friend
It involves many, many hours of swapping machines...changing coils...experimenting...flagging targets...hunting very pounded sites...crummy weather...etc....but man what I have learned
Should be a very interesting 2010
Take care my friend
OhioCoinHunter
New member
Excellent field test, Bryce. I like the side-by-side comparison with another well known coil. Thank you for the time and effort you put into that field test. It was a very enjoyable read.
grumpyolman
New member
Bryce...Do respect you and your knowledge, but because the results were so closely similar could you say with any degree of confidence that the ground conditions, were the same during the comparison testing?? Dryer, wetter, previous storm, etc,. all have something to do with the detectability of the targets.
Now here's a challenge for you. Please consider repeating the test comparing the SEF 8X5 against the Sunray 8. You seem to really endorse the 10X12 SEF and I think you found it 'better' than the 12" Sunray.
And thanks for throwing the E-Trac in there as well for comparisons. Doesn't seem like anyone on the E-Trac side of the forum pays attention to detail like you do. That's why I always pop over here to review what's going on. There is significantly more testing, comparing, and sharing knowledge here than on the ET forum. Seems like most of the ET portion is 'show & tell.'
I think the bottom line is that the differences between the various coils is insignificant unless you happen to be one of the power/skilled pros. Only in folks like you and a few others would one find different coils significantly improve their finds. Now!! If we could plug into your headphones with a splitter, follow you, and watch, that might make a major difference.
Thanks...Jim
Now here's a challenge for you. Please consider repeating the test comparing the SEF 8X5 against the Sunray 8. You seem to really endorse the 10X12 SEF and I think you found it 'better' than the 12" Sunray.
And thanks for throwing the E-Trac in there as well for comparisons. Doesn't seem like anyone on the E-Trac side of the forum pays attention to detail like you do. That's why I always pop over here to review what's going on. There is significantly more testing, comparing, and sharing knowledge here than on the ET forum. Seems like most of the ET portion is 'show & tell.'
I think the bottom line is that the differences between the various coils is insignificant unless you happen to be one of the power/skilled pros. Only in folks like you and a few others would one find different coils significantly improve their finds. Now!! If we could plug into your headphones with a splitter, follow you, and watch, that might make a major difference.
Thanks...Jim
Hi Jim.
I appreciate your respect...and kind words
In my opinion I didn't find the results similar at all. In fact I found the opposite.
The comparison testing was done seconds to minutes apart...so the conditions would not have changed in that time frame.
When I had been over the first site previously...I used the 1050 coil...and when the ground was very moist.
This time...during the comparison testing...I used the slimline coil...in the same moist conditions.
The slimline coil...while nowhere near as stable as the 1050...does separate pretty well. It still did not separate well enough to find the 3 missed coins which the X-8 DID....and I can say that with 100% confidence.
The X-8 separated the coins from the trash in all three instances whereas the slimline did not. Hence why I missed them previously with the 1050....why they were a jumbled mess on this day with the slimline...and why the X-8 did NOT miss them.
As for the side by side comparing against the Minelab 7.5" coil...same time frame. The comparisons were done merely seconds to minutes apart...so no way the ground conditions could have varied in that time frame.
The Minelab 7.5" coil flat out would NOT hit the 9" deep merc which the X-8 told me to investigate over....and trust me...I TRIED to make it hit.
Third site...no comparisons were done...just some good old hunt time at a pounded spot.
This field test was not a test to compare coils against each other. It was exactly as stated...a field test of the Sunray X-8 coil.
As for testing the SEF 6 x 8 against the Sunray X-8....there are only so many hours in the day...and my personal hunt time is limited as it is....so I can't do it all.
I would also like to do some future comparisons with the Coiltek WOT coil and the 15 x 18 SEF coil...but good Lord...I would end up in the hospital with shoulder surgery if I did so.
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Now for the 12" Sunray. I did not find the 10 x 12 SEF coil better than the 12" Sunray.In fact I have never compared those two coils head to head.
I've been using the 10 x 12 SEF coil for nearly 2 years now.
I got my first use of the 12" Sunray just a couple of months ago...and that complete field test report will be published in Western & Eastern Treasures Magazine in about 6 or 8 weeks...so I cannot comment on it at this time. All I can say is that it is an awesome coil and it opened my eyes to some things.
Since then I have been very busy with the 15 x 18 SEF.....then this field test of the X-8...so I simply have not had much time to use it since.
The field test I did on the Sunray X-5 coil will be coming out in Western & Eastern Treasures in 3 or 4 weeks.
It would be cool sometime to compare the 5" Sunray...to the 6" Excelerator...to the 6 x 8 SEF coil...but again I want to have a life...and some personal hunt time.
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The kind of hunt time I like is time like the following... http://www.findmall.com/read.php?19,1167011,1167011#msg-1167011
Thanks for responding Jim. I always appreciate your input.
I appreciate your respect...and kind words
In my opinion I didn't find the results similar at all. In fact I found the opposite.
The comparison testing was done seconds to minutes apart...so the conditions would not have changed in that time frame.
When I had been over the first site previously...I used the 1050 coil...and when the ground was very moist.
This time...during the comparison testing...I used the slimline coil...in the same moist conditions.
The slimline coil...while nowhere near as stable as the 1050...does separate pretty well. It still did not separate well enough to find the 3 missed coins which the X-8 DID....and I can say that with 100% confidence.
The X-8 separated the coins from the trash in all three instances whereas the slimline did not. Hence why I missed them previously with the 1050....why they were a jumbled mess on this day with the slimline...and why the X-8 did NOT miss them.
As for the side by side comparing against the Minelab 7.5" coil...same time frame. The comparisons were done merely seconds to minutes apart...so no way the ground conditions could have varied in that time frame.
The Minelab 7.5" coil flat out would NOT hit the 9" deep merc which the X-8 told me to investigate over....and trust me...I TRIED to make it hit.
Third site...no comparisons were done...just some good old hunt time at a pounded spot.
This field test was not a test to compare coils against each other. It was exactly as stated...a field test of the Sunray X-8 coil.
As for testing the SEF 6 x 8 against the Sunray X-8....there are only so many hours in the day...and my personal hunt time is limited as it is....so I can't do it all.
I would also like to do some future comparisons with the Coiltek WOT coil and the 15 x 18 SEF coil...but good Lord...I would end up in the hospital with shoulder surgery if I did so.
[attachment 155680 smileytreadmark.gif]
Now for the 12" Sunray. I did not find the 10 x 12 SEF coil better than the 12" Sunray.In fact I have never compared those two coils head to head.
I've been using the 10 x 12 SEF coil for nearly 2 years now.
I got my first use of the 12" Sunray just a couple of months ago...and that complete field test report will be published in Western & Eastern Treasures Magazine in about 6 or 8 weeks...so I cannot comment on it at this time. All I can say is that it is an awesome coil and it opened my eyes to some things.
Since then I have been very busy with the 15 x 18 SEF.....then this field test of the X-8...so I simply have not had much time to use it since.
The field test I did on the Sunray X-5 coil will be coming out in Western & Eastern Treasures in 3 or 4 weeks.
It would be cool sometime to compare the 5" Sunray...to the 6" Excelerator...to the 6 x 8 SEF coil...but again I want to have a life...and some personal hunt time.
[attachment 155681 smileybigteethdance.gif]
The kind of hunt time I like is time like the following... http://www.findmall.com/read.php?19,1167011,1167011#msg-1167011
Thanks for responding Jim. I always appreciate your input.
Orlensin-FL
New member
Very well done my man. You put a lot of effort into what you do for everyone here and I for one appreciate it.
When you talk about sunrays giving a better sound; can you elaborate a little.
Dont want to bug you but am curious to know how you mean it.
thanks
When you talk about sunrays giving a better sound; can you elaborate a little.
Dont want to bug you but am curious to know how you mean it.
thanks
To me...it just seems to give a more distinct...louder, and harder hit on deep coins that most other coils I use.
The only coil that seems to hit as hard to me is my SEF coil.
The pro coil gives me a more subtle hit...as do most other coils...but the Sunrays just seem to "hammer" a deep coin with a harder hit. I get the same results with coins in trash too...not just deep ones.
Honestly I don't know any other way to put it.
The only coil that seems to hit as hard to me is my SEF coil.
The pro coil gives me a more subtle hit...as do most other coils...but the Sunrays just seem to "hammer" a deep coin with a harder hit. I get the same results with coins in trash too...not just deep ones.
Honestly I don't know any other way to put it.