Coinseeker 78
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When using Bryces program will the ferrous mode separate iron better than conductive mode in trashy areas? Thanks in advance.
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Ferrous versus Conductive
- Thread starter Coinseeker 78
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My opinion is both are the same so I don't think you will get better separation using one over the other. Using either ferrous or conduct, all you are getting is how the machine will report the signals it gets.
I think ferrous is easier for some because it gives low tones for signals on the left side of the screen while conduct gives tones based on relative conductivity of an object detected.
Using conduct in iron infested areas can be a challenge because nails can cause iron chirps that have to distinguished from high conductors, such as quarters, dimes and pennies.
IF one uses any iron mask while running ferrous sounds, it will not separate any better than using conduct with the same iron mask settings, only using one or the other will be reported differently.
Many ferrous sound users run without any iron mask and claim it will separate better than using some form of discrimination.
There is a large number of successful users that use ferrous or the conduct and find good stuff in iron ridden areas, even with varying degrees of discrimination.
The same can be said of using auto or manual sensitivity. The key is to find what works best for each individual user.
I started out using conduct sounds and after time tried ferrous. I can see how it could make telling nail chirps from high conductive coins for some but I got real good using conduct and didn't want to run ferrous and stuck with conduct.
Some even use both settings, ferrous and conduct under different conditions, like using conduct where there is modern trash to deal with and then using ferrous in old places where there is little modern trash.
To add to the above, a few like me use conduct sounds along with audio 1, which gives a signal as long as the coil is over an object. I think this helps me find the weak good signals and allows me to analyze most of those iron chirps and ignore them or pick out a non-ferrous item mixed in with iron trash.
I guess what I am trying to point out is there are a lot of different settings that are used successfull by various users, don't be afraid to experiment and see what works for you best especially after you get some time getting to know the detector.
If you are using bryce's other settings, I would stick with conduct sounds, I think that is what he uses but this is JMO.
Hope this helps,
HH
I think ferrous is easier for some because it gives low tones for signals on the left side of the screen while conduct gives tones based on relative conductivity of an object detected.
Using conduct in iron infested areas can be a challenge because nails can cause iron chirps that have to distinguished from high conductors, such as quarters, dimes and pennies.
IF one uses any iron mask while running ferrous sounds, it will not separate any better than using conduct with the same iron mask settings, only using one or the other will be reported differently.
Many ferrous sound users run without any iron mask and claim it will separate better than using some form of discrimination.
There is a large number of successful users that use ferrous or the conduct and find good stuff in iron ridden areas, even with varying degrees of discrimination.
The same can be said of using auto or manual sensitivity. The key is to find what works best for each individual user.
I started out using conduct sounds and after time tried ferrous. I can see how it could make telling nail chirps from high conductive coins for some but I got real good using conduct and didn't want to run ferrous and stuck with conduct.
Some even use both settings, ferrous and conduct under different conditions, like using conduct where there is modern trash to deal with and then using ferrous in old places where there is little modern trash.
To add to the above, a few like me use conduct sounds along with audio 1, which gives a signal as long as the coil is over an object. I think this helps me find the weak good signals and allows me to analyze most of those iron chirps and ignore them or pick out a non-ferrous item mixed in with iron trash.
I guess what I am trying to point out is there are a lot of different settings that are used successfull by various users, don't be afraid to experiment and see what works for you best especially after you get some time getting to know the detector.
If you are using bryce's other settings, I would stick with conduct sounds, I think that is what he uses but this is JMO.
Hope this helps,
HH
Coinseeker 78
New member
Thanks for the very informative reply. It is very helpful.
dewcon4414
Well-known member
I will switch back and forth if the area requires it. However, i have noticed the Ferr numbers very more than the Cond do. Since the sounds are based on the Ferr number when in Ferr mode i dont find them as reliable. Also i cant stand the sound of bottle caps in Ferr. Its much eaiser to learn the sound of iron bounce and ignore it... or dig a few bent nails. I dont know why, but for me when im in Ferr i feel like im only hearing two tones after awhile.... high and low. Like Steve said there are succesful hunter using either method.
Dew
Dew
Many use either with super results and thats the great aspect of the Explorer many different setups work well in ones neck of the woods. Personally would use the one of your choice and stick with it...switching back and forth will certainly confuse you. Same goes for other aspects as what works for you may not work well for another.After a while you will find certain settings work for you and just stick with them and learn the unit in this fashion switching back and forth will only find your Explorer in the classifieds.
Hey, I just saw your twin brother over on Tnet! 
I hunt with a Safari, but I read all the forums. It seems the Explorer processor works very similar to my rig. But I like ferrous more because I can hear the sounds better. Don't know exactly why but I just can. Also, a rusted big bolt for instance will sound like a silver coin (halo effect), but it will show up on the numerical scale as a ferrous object most of the time. So, I know not to waste my time digging. Of course this won't work for relics, so I go to all metal for relics. Onus
I hunt with a Safari, but I read all the forums. It seems the Explorer processor works very similar to my rig. But I like ferrous more because I can hear the sounds better. Don't know exactly why but I just can. Also, a rusted big bolt for instance will sound like a silver coin (halo effect), but it will show up on the numerical scale as a ferrous object most of the time. So, I know not to waste my time digging. Of course this won't work for relics, so I go to all metal for relics. Onus