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Ferrous versus Conduct - There's more to this than meets the eye

Charles (Upstate NY)

Well-known member
On my last hunt I began experimenting with conductive tones as part of my plan this season and noticed something damn odd right off the bat.

I was running iron mask at -10 and got a signal which was ID'ing with the cursor half off the top of the screen around the silver dime range some some bouncing towards the left. Hmmm I switch to Ferrous tones and thats when things got weird.

In ferrous tones the cursor changed both behavior and position. The cursor was now half off the right side of the screen just below where silver halfs ID and exhibited the classic iron bounce pattern.

I switched back and forth between ferrous and conductive tones a few times while circling this target and this held true. I dug the target and it was a square nail. I tested this on a few more nails in the area and got the same result.

Now the question of the day is, why would the cursor location change when switching from Ferrous to Conductive tones? And we are talking about quite a significant change in location.

I remember a few years ago guys were posting charts of where coins hit and it was observed that indian head cents seemed to ID at different locations on the screen, for some guys they ID'd quite a ways left of where they ID'd on other peoples screens. Now I'm wondering if this is due to ferrous versus conductive tones.

It would seem that cursor ID is somehow tied to conductive versus ferrous, I don't really need to know the specifics of the Explorer inner workings but I will be exploring this to see if there is some advantage we can exploit. I'll just throw something out there, maybe the Explorer will go deeper on silver using conductive tones versus ferrous? The conductivity of a target seems the stronger of the two e.g. deep semi-iffy targets don't bounce up and down much but do bounce left and right quite a bit.

Just some food for thought people.
 
Interesting post and very informative. Good to see your input. I have been informed my mom has end stage kidney failure so will need to back away from the forums, I think, to care for her more closely. I think I will also need to ask the owners to consider a new moderator so am looking for the right time to do that.
 
Hello Charles.

Read your interesting account of Cond./ Fe. etc....and was curious about the effects you observed.

QUOTE:- 'switched back and forth between ferrous and conductive tones a few times while circling this target and this held true. I dug the target and it was a square nail. I tested this on a few more nails in the area and got the same result'

The accurate description of your proccess may contain the answere to your query!

You may recall, that if you scan a nail or any ferrous item of narrow width but much greater length, then it is reasonable to see the reactions you observed.

Typically, if the nail is tending to lay in the horizontal plain, then a` 'head to point' sweep may produce 'end positive' signals, whilst an 'across' sweep is different.

This applies to any ferrous item which has a significant length to breadth ratio, if swept in the manner you described....Regards. MattR.UK.
 
Thats not really what I'm talking about, here's a graphic which better explains what I'm seeing. This is the same nail swept from the exact same direction, the only difference is the tones. Thoughts?
 
[quote Cody]Interesting post and very informative. Good to see your input. I have been informed my mom has end stage kidney failure so will need to back away from the forums, I think, to care for her more closely. I think I will also need to ask the owners to consider a new moderator so am looking for the right time to do that.[/quote]

Sorry to hear about your mother Cody, all my best wishes for her, you and your family. Take care.
 
Charles. What is your Iron mask setting?

The graphic implies -16?

I'm trying to replicate your set-up. .....MattR.UK
 
Cody ,
...At first she took care of you now it's time to take care of her. Finding a mediator would be last on my list of things to do. Time is of the essence ... Many who won't respond to a message such as this I'm sure are still praying...Best wishes to you and yours.
 
Cody,

Sorry to hear about the mother. You have your priorities straight with first things first. Our prayers are with your family.

Glenn
 
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