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Fast/Deep On or Off or both On or Off
- Thread starter unearth
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This is my opinion with the CTX. The places I have been hunting so far the CTX recovers plenty fast enough and I have tried both settings. On the beach I run deep on but run a lower gain. I personally don't see running deep on and high gain so when I have my gain below 20 I run deep on. Again I have tried different settings and this is what works for me. When you find a deep target take time to experiment with different settings and see what you prefer in you ground or conditions you are hunting in. I am sure you will get more advice but like I said this is just my opinion and I am no expert by any means. HH 
earthmansurfer
Active member
hershey1 - Nice post. I haven't ever seen a real difference with recovery deep on, on a deeper target. BUT, I always had my gain up when I tried it. I will play with running recovery deep on when the gain is lower (whenever that happens ;-)
In my tests, recovery fast on did make a difference but thus far on targets I can't really say. It clips deeper targets audio wise, so I have been running with it off.
Generally, I just run both deep and fast off - but I do think one needs to just try them out on deeper targets (as hershey1 said) as perhaps our ground conditions, etc. will alter things...
In my tests, recovery fast on did make a difference but thus far on targets I can't really say. It clips deeper targets audio wise, so I have been running with it off.
Generally, I just run both deep and fast off - but I do think one needs to just try them out on deeper targets (as hershey1 said) as perhaps our ground conditions, etc. will alter things...
EtracTom-AdirondacksNY
New member
Same as both guys above. If, If it's a really target rich spot can be coins or junk or usually both then I run with fast on to give added target seperation speed and you still get depth cause it's a Minelab detector.
Tried deep on in spots I think I have cleaned out but now based on what Hershey1 said I didn't think to try it with the gain lowered. I just left my gain at the 24 -28 setting it usually comes at from the factory. Turning up the gain it makes deeper targets louder and easier to hear Andy recommends like no more than 28-29 and Bryce the moderator of the Explorer forum runs his machine an SE at 30 maxed out and swears by it for real deepies. Having deep on and I gain together is redundant and both are doing the same thing so I would go with gain higher and deep off as it would be adding an extra layer of filtering on signals.
Now if it was an iffy signal maybe backing off the gain to 20 or lower and turning on Deep it may ID better????
By turning Deep on it adds filters to help with TID and turning Fast on it turns off some filters for added speed. Read or found this info out when I bought the Etrac, think it's in the manual that I read it.
Tried deep on in spots I think I have cleaned out but now based on what Hershey1 said I didn't think to try it with the gain lowered. I just left my gain at the 24 -28 setting it usually comes at from the factory. Turning up the gain it makes deeper targets louder and easier to hear Andy recommends like no more than 28-29 and Bryce the moderator of the Explorer forum runs his machine an SE at 30 maxed out and swears by it for real deepies. Having deep on and I gain together is redundant and both are doing the same thing so I would go with gain higher and deep off as it would be adding an extra layer of filtering on signals.
Now if it was an iffy signal maybe backing off the gain to 20 or lower and turning on Deep it may ID better????
By turning Deep on it adds filters to help with TID and turning Fast on it turns off some filters for added speed. Read or found this info out when I bought the Etrac, think it's in the manual that I read it.
I think there is some confusion on what deep on and gain does,,,,, at least for the Etrac,,,, might not be the same for the CTX but who knows at this point,,,
-GAIN,,,,,, involves the VOLUME of a detected deeper target,,,,, with high gain the machine will turn up the volume for a weaker signal to make it louder,,,,, that's it no more
-DEEP ON will take a weak signal,,,, and run it thru different analytic processes/ more processing to help ID the target and stabilize the TID ... it has nothing to do with the volume of the signal,,,
so if ya want added processing AND a loud report on a deep target use a high gain and deep on,,,, if you like the deeper targets to sound like they are deep/softer but still get processed/analyzed more by the machine then run deep on and a lower gain for a softer report
that's how I read it,,,,, they are doing two completely different things IMHO
-GAIN,,,,,, involves the VOLUME of a detected deeper target,,,,, with high gain the machine will turn up the volume for a weaker signal to make it louder,,,,, that's it no more
-DEEP ON will take a weak signal,,,, and run it thru different analytic processes/ more processing to help ID the target and stabilize the TID ... it has nothing to do with the volume of the signal,,,
so if ya want added processing AND a loud report on a deep target use a high gain and deep on,,,, if you like the deeper targets to sound like they are deep/softer but still get processed/analyzed more by the machine then run deep on and a lower gain for a softer report
that's how I read it,,,,, they are doing two completely different things IMHO
I'm not sure I put my question, regarding Fast/Deep on or off, correctly. I have read posts, I think, where some hunters have Fast and Deep on or off, at the same time. How would that effect the detecting of a target? Both on or off. Will it confuse the detector? Will one or the other, fast/deep, take precedence over the other if both are on? Or will the depth of the target determine which setting, if both are on, the detector uses?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
EtracTom-AdirondacksNY
New member
Both do different things and shouldn't effect each other Deep On only helps TID to smooth out on deep iffy targets so as to not have a jumpy TID.
Fast On shortens the signals responce or makes it quicker reset quicker for the next target and on the Etrac it would slightly clip the signal a bit shorter but I haven't noticed if it does it on the CTX yet.
Squirrel1 tested gain and DEEP On settings in another post on this forum and found that Volume Gain makes deep targets louder so as to hear them better and all that having Deep On did was to make the TID stable on the deep targets when the TID was jumping around on those signals.
You can run both on both off or any combo of what you want or need no problems.
Fast On shortens the signals responce or makes it quicker reset quicker for the next target and on the Etrac it would slightly clip the signal a bit shorter but I haven't noticed if it does it on the CTX yet.
Squirrel1 tested gain and DEEP On settings in another post on this forum and found that Volume Gain makes deep targets louder so as to hear them better and all that having Deep On did was to make the TID stable on the deep targets when the TID was jumping around on those signals.
You can run both on both off or any combo of what you want or need no problems.