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F2 detector any depth to it.
- Thread starter knarfj
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Im sure it will be better in disc mode than your old school.The old TR mode was not very deep on my relic magnum but its all metal with a 7.5" search coil on a buried coin was a solid 8" a whisper with good phones at 9".
Im not sure what model you have but search in all-metal VLF mode and cross check with TR mode and dig all faint target in all metal-all deep targets-thats what i did managed some good finds.
Im certain the F2 would get 8" about in all-metal and maybe 6-8" with the large search coil in disc mode.Thats a guess but most modern good american made detectors even bounty hunters get 6" in disc mode at least but a stable good lock at 6".From my expiernce thats what I can tell you.After 6" all most all detectors I have had get jumpy VDI.My Gold bug pro gets good depth-acurate VDI-I dont see why the F2 would not get some good depth on coins with its lower freq 6khz.
Im not sure what model you have but search in all-metal VLF mode and cross check with TR mode and dig all faint target in all metal-all deep targets-thats what i did managed some good finds.
Im certain the F2 would get 8" about in all-metal and maybe 6-8" with the large search coil in disc mode.Thats a guess but most modern good american made detectors even bounty hunters get 6" in disc mode at least but a stable good lock at 6".From my expiernce thats what I can tell you.After 6" all most all detectors I have had get jumpy VDI.My Gold bug pro gets good depth-acurate VDI-I dont see why the F2 would not get some good depth on coins with its lower freq 6khz.
F2 doesn't have an all metal mode, unless you hold the pinpoint button down. With the stock coil it will hit a 5" coin, but in my test garden, a 6" coin is out of reach. With a larger coil I'm sure it would hit a six inch coin. The F2 is a fine detector for the money. Llightweight and easy to handle.
jimmyk in missouri
jimmyk in missouri
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It all depends on your soil.
When I lived in Birmingham AL, some of the worst soil in the country, not much will get deeper than 3-4 inches in the worst of that soil.
Most of the time 3" would be my limit.
Not my F2, my Compadre, my Vaquero or even a friends E-Trac were able to penetrate that highly mineralized soil mixed in with the veins of natural iron ore that runs through the entire area.
There are a few spots with better soil in the area and once I was in some decent soil that was moist after a rain and got a solid dime signal that said 7" on my screen and this dime was every bit of that 7" deep...maybe a little more.
Switching to my better soil when I relocated to Kansas, everything I own is going deeper including the F2.
5-6-7" on coin size objects and trash is now the norm, not the exception, large junk like cans way deeper.
I have read many, many posts from owners of the F2 and there seems to be a huge range of results from some that say they get no further than 4" with the standard 8" coil to others that say they get past 8".
Most that have the 10" coil do find that about 2" more in depth is common...especially in moist soil over that 8" coil.
When I lived in Birmingham AL, some of the worst soil in the country, not much will get deeper than 3-4 inches in the worst of that soil.
Most of the time 3" would be my limit.
Not my F2, my Compadre, my Vaquero or even a friends E-Trac were able to penetrate that highly mineralized soil mixed in with the veins of natural iron ore that runs through the entire area.
There are a few spots with better soil in the area and once I was in some decent soil that was moist after a rain and got a solid dime signal that said 7" on my screen and this dime was every bit of that 7" deep...maybe a little more.
Switching to my better soil when I relocated to Kansas, everything I own is going deeper including the F2.
5-6-7" on coin size objects and trash is now the norm, not the exception, large junk like cans way deeper.
I have read many, many posts from owners of the F2 and there seems to be a huge range of results from some that say they get no further than 4" with the standard 8" coil to others that say they get past 8".
Most that have the 10" coil do find that about 2" more in depth is common...especially in moist soil over that 8" coil.
Good lightweight entry level detector for the bucks and will give you an inch or two over your old school unit and weight and ergonomics plus features a definite plus.
Not familiar with your old school detector or the mineralization so just a generalization which is probably spot on....
Not familiar with your old school detector or the mineralization so just a generalization which is probably spot on....
Thanks all for your input!
I called Kellyco today and ask for there input on the subject also. There comments pretty much reflect what every one here has said. "Reviers" comments pretty much tells it like it is. I all boils down to what type of ground you hunting over.
Kellyco also implied that the ground in my area "Western Washington" is considered to be somewhat high on the mineralization scale. Needless to say Kellyco didn't offer much hope that the F2 would give me any more depth than what I'm using now. Soooooo! It's back to the drawing board.
For those who were wondering what detectors I've been using and referring to as "old school", one was a older Whites 6000/Di Pro and the other is a Tesoro Toltec II. I recently sold the 6000/Di and kept the lighter weight Toltec II.
HH All.
I called Kellyco today and ask for there input on the subject also. There comments pretty much reflect what every one here has said. "Reviers" comments pretty much tells it like it is. I all boils down to what type of ground you hunting over.
Kellyco also implied that the ground in my area "Western Washington" is considered to be somewhat high on the mineralization scale. Needless to say Kellyco didn't offer much hope that the F2 would give me any more depth than what I'm using now. Soooooo! It's back to the drawing board.
For those who were wondering what detectors I've been using and referring to as "old school", one was a older Whites 6000/Di Pro and the other is a Tesoro Toltec II. I recently sold the 6000/Di and kept the lighter weight Toltec II.
HH All.
Oh wow you had a 6000/di pro-if it was a black box model it would destroy the f2 in depth.Im sure it would keep up to lots of newer models,I know when the first whites 5000 came out they sucked for depth in disc mode.The toltec should go fairly deep you may have some extreme minerlized soil out there.I would go with the Gold Bug or G2 or Garrett At Pro or xterra70 something able to penetrate the minerlized soil.
Hey rockpup1,
Nope, it wasn't the newer black box, but just the same it was still a good machine but I wanted more depth. Your correct we do have a lot of mineralization in our soil (iron oxide) I believe.
The Toltec performed about par with my old Whites especially in discrimination, but in all metals the Whites left the Toltec in the dust. Also the VDI on the Whites was by far superior to the VDI on the Toltec. Did I mention the older Whites is quite a chunk to pack around?
I finally decided on and ordered a Fisher F4. It's in a price range I can justify and it's GB can be manually adjusted. Plus I'm trusting, hopefully not in vain, that it's technically more advanced and will allow me more depth. Oh please, please, pretty please!!!
knarfj
Nope, it wasn't the newer black box, but just the same it was still a good machine but I wanted more depth. Your correct we do have a lot of mineralization in our soil (iron oxide) I believe.
The Toltec performed about par with my old Whites especially in discrimination, but in all metals the Whites left the Toltec in the dust. Also the VDI on the Whites was by far superior to the VDI on the Toltec. Did I mention the older Whites is quite a chunk to pack around?
I finally decided on and ordered a Fisher F4. It's in a price range I can justify and it's GB can be manually adjusted. Plus I'm trusting, hopefully not in vain, that it's technically more advanced and will allow me more depth. Oh please, please, pretty please!!!
knarfj
Thanks for the words of encouragement.
I see you also own a Vaquero. Having owned a couple of Tesoros I was really considering going the Vaquero route but I had already promised my better half I would spend no more on a new detector than I have on the F4. Plus I'm really drawn to a machine with VDI. Way back in the dark ages my first couple of machines were without VDI or tone ID for that mater and I really got tired of turning the disc. knob to see were the target in question would drop out. Times are a changing.
Come on USPS!
HH
I see you also own a Vaquero. Having owned a couple of Tesoros I was really considering going the Vaquero route but I had already promised my better half I would spend no more on a new detector than I have on the F4. Plus I'm really drawn to a machine with VDI. Way back in the dark ages my first couple of machines were without VDI or tone ID for that mater and I really got tired of turning the disc. knob to see were the target in question would drop out. Times are a changing.
Come on USPS!
HH
I had a Vaquero it had its quircks.It loved Iron pyrite.Other than that I could get some good depth out of it with the stock coil-pretty scary depth on some things if you ran it real hot and put up with the chatter.I have hit 12" pulltabs on the beach with it.I was one of my deeper machines on lower conductive stuff rings/nickles/PULLTABS.
I decided to buy the F5.Im getting a hell of a deal so its a no brainer for me.I have the gold bug pro which is a deep hitter but i figure the notch-tones and other features are worth it-plus I get a 11" dd coil I can use on my gold bug machine(my nugget shooter-iron/trash killer).
Its not a cz or minelab explorer ect...but I expect 8" coins once the machine is figured-sounds are learned.I dont think the VDI is much help on deep coins.
Hey does the f5-f4 have vco like the gold bug pro or only in pin point mode?
I decided to buy the F5.Im getting a hell of a deal so its a no brainer for me.I have the gold bug pro which is a deep hitter but i figure the notch-tones and other features are worth it-plus I get a 11" dd coil I can use on my gold bug machine(my nugget shooter-iron/trash killer).
Its not a cz or minelab explorer ect...but I expect 8" coins once the machine is figured-sounds are learned.I dont think the VDI is much help on deep coins.
Hey does the f5-f4 have vco like the gold bug pro or only in pin point mode?
rockpup1 said:
This link at Kellyco is the sum of a search I did using "VCO". Along with other info. I believe it lists all the machines they carry that use VCO.
http://www.kellycodetectors.com/search.php?cx=002182045962722417720%3Awhmr2avge5e&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&q=vco&sa.x=29&sa.y=15&sa=Search
Below is what it said about the F5 and VCO .
PINPOINT
Mike Hillis
Well-known member
The F5 has two VCO modes. The single tone is a VCO mode, and the two tone audio's non-ferrous tone is a VCO mode.
I think both of you will enjoy your F5's.
HH
Mike
I think both of you will enjoy your F5's.
HH
Mike
[size=medium]Interesting! Thanks for your insight.
I did get a little time in my coin garden today and after a bit of tweaking I was rewarded with realizing a little more depth with the F5.
Another thing became apparent after I got the F5 ground balanced; the Fe3O4 bar graph indicates the soil in my test garden is very highly mineralized. The bar graph pegs hard to the right!
From what I've read elsewhere on this and other forums to ID a freshly buried dime at a measured 4 inches in the discrimination mode under these ground conditions is pretty decent.[/size]
I did get a little time in my coin garden today and after a bit of tweaking I was rewarded with realizing a little more depth with the F5.
Another thing became apparent after I got the F5 ground balanced; the Fe3O4 bar graph indicates the soil in my test garden is very highly mineralized. The bar graph pegs hard to the right!
From what I've read elsewhere on this and other forums to ID a freshly buried dime at a measured 4 inches in the discrimination mode under these ground conditions is pretty decent.[/size]