F19 / Racer

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

Txquest lent me or loaned me his f19...he shipped it to me to test it and I still want one more weekend of testing...

I have been doing a little testing with the f19 VS the racer and find them to both hunt about the same..I was using the 5" coil on the racer and the 5X7 on the f19 not sure if that is the messurment of the coil. I do like that coil a lot and when the racer has that coil for sale or should I say they are stocked that maybe the way to go for tighter hunts...but I found on the F19 you have to really run your gain really hi or the target gets lost. I can run the racer in bad iron at 40-59 with the small coil and get a loud nice full bodied tone if you lower the f19 to say fifty or so it is a broken sound or a weaker sound that I may have left. The racer has more power with less gain and has less adjustments and I thougt that would be more of a loss but it is turning out to be a good thing.

I think the racer and the F19 are about on par to being the same except the gain...the reason I like less gain is when in iron too much gain tends to overload the detector and miss targets. We are not looking for depth so much as just trying to unmask the iron and or trash. I think fisher may have put this in the software where the racer has more control. Also on most detectors the more sens or gain the bigger the foot print of the coil so you want a nice tight line from the front to the back of the coil with a DD...I think fisher programed that into the machine. The only big difference is the racers tones tell you more even when mixed with iron...so for me I like both machines but give the racer the edge...the fisher feels cheaper and I don't like the buttons or the pinpoint fuction. The racer is way better built and feels better when swinging, has better tones that tell you more and I found the racer 5" coil to be as deep as the coil I was using on the f19 so I could think the next coil on the racer will be deeper then the F19 the 5x7 I think that is the size?

LowBoy

 

[Albert]

Hi LowBoy, I have the 5x10 dd coil on my racer and can tell you that it is a sweet setup. Pinpoints excellent ( just by using the tip. And the seperation is great. I used it at a trashy park and was pleasantly surprised at how well it worked. I would say it's a must ha e coil for the racer. My 2c.

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

Thanks Elbert I think I will have to get one when they are stocked again

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

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[Flintstone]

Everyone said the 5" coil was a must have coil, now they say it is the 5X10 coil. Dose it every stop????

 

[jdeiana]

Would love to see posts like this stay on the Racer section. These comparisons with similar untis are among the most interesting topics. Very interesting post Low-boy.

 

[Monte]

acquired and evaluated two Fisher D19's, which come with a standard coil that is a 5X10 Double-D. In general I liked them in several ways. One was the standard coil, which I had used in the past on the Teknetics G2 and Omega and it proved to be a good search coil. Another thing I liked was the general balance and feel, and having both an automated Ground Grab type Ground Balance or the Manual GB option.

I also have my own 5" round DD coil that has also proven to be a very good search coil in dense brush and trashy environments, and it helped the F19 perform better on my Nail Board Performance Test. I almost decided to keep one of those in my personal arsenal because the did better on the NBPT than the Gold Bug pro, G2, and all the other Fisher and Teknetics models.

My first Makro Racer was honestly a surprise arrival for me, Keith S., Steve H. and a few others, but I was drawn to it's appearance and features because the modes and adjustments were very similar to the Nokta FORS CoRe which had already impressed me. So yes, my first Racer was a pre-production unit with all the search coils. Well, it worked at least as well as the FORS CoRe, and it out-performed the F19's in several in-the-field comparisons. I then purchased my 2nd which is aa production version Makro Racer because it worked as I wanted, and needed, and I have enjoyed putting both of them to work.

I keep the little 'OOR' coil [size=small](for Out-Of-Round due to the 4.7X5.2 shape)[/size] mounted on R1, my pre-production unit, and R2, the production run Racer I bought, wears the enclosed 5½X10 Double-D coil most of the time. I like this coil size, as I did the similar size on the F19, for working more open areas.

I used the F19 for some urban Coin Hunting, around some renovation in old parts of towns, and mainly at older places, like homesteads and ghost towns. It worked better than the other Fisher and Teknetics models in dense iron debris. But comparing them with the Racers, in the very same sites, the Racer felt better, but mainly worked better overall for me. There are many detectors on the market and quite a few can be pretty good, we just need to decide what happens to satisfy each of us.

I know the F19 is a good detector and with the small 5" DD coil I almost kept one in my personal arsenal. There was no Racer at the time and I think if I would have kept the F19, once I used the Racer the F19 would have been up for sale anyway. The basic Racer, w/o Pro Package, retails for hundreds less than the F19 and has a lot of power and performance for the price.

Monte

 

[Frank in NH]

It does not stop til you have them all!

 

[Elton]

Would love to see posts like this stay on the Racer section. These comparisons with similar untis are among the most interesting topics. Very interesting post Low-boy.

Forum rules allow comparisons between models only on Metal detector forum.. We should be happy.Before comparisons were not allowed at all ..