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F-75 plus the small coil

Rick(ND)

Well-known member
I have had my F-75 for a while and like most thought something was wrong with it as it chattered a lot, got a lot of rusty bottle caps and pieces of old rusty tin cans. I tried different setting and some do help a little while others don't. The real problem I feel is trying to use it like my Minelab Sovereign and the Explorers which I am used to. The F-75 has impressed me at time and made me mad at times with all the trash I would dig when looking for coins. I like my multi tones for IDing and tried using it this way, but read so many say run the 2 tones and I tried it a little and didn like it, so back to the multi tones I went. I should have kept using it and got to understand it more as I feel those that post this do know what they are talking about. Even with the multi tones I would be surprised at time with some of the coins I found in place I and others had worked hard in for over 30 years. I now see where using the multi tones may have made me dig more trash as these signals were more iffy and i just had to dig them to see what they were.

Now I got the small coil and took it to some of the real trashy sites and even some that were not so trashy, but close areas to work. I went with the 2 tones and stayed with them and when i get a good tone and it seem to be a more solid tone I look at the ID to ID the target. I find that it works better for me as I can tell the ones that are the better signals and also the depth of the target with these tones. A weaker tones that is repeatable gets my attention right now while a louder signal will have to lock on more on the ID. I also see the ID will read higher if the target is a deeper one plus I don't get as many rusty bottle caps either as I swing the coil a little faster or slower and it will sound different while a good target will sound more solid using the 2 tones.

The F-75 is not a perfect detector as none are and it is as good as the operator is and how they understand it which I feel I am getting better with, but no expert yet. I do feel more comfortable now with the smaller coil and the 2 tones instead of the multi tones.

Now last week trying out the new small coil I got a few relic running it this way plus a wheat penny that had 2 nails with it, so my confidence got much better. Today i went to a old park we have got some older coins out of it with the Explorers and the Sovereigns and went to a area by the road where I know is a little more trashy and started picking up new pennies and a nickle right away. I worked around this area and seen if it show 60 or more and a louder signal I would dig, if a 57-59 and loud it was a pull tab, if 31-33 it was a pull tab, but 29-30 it was a nickle if louder signal. These were fro, 1-4 inches deep. Got a weak signal that seem to be ruining 58-59 and pretty solid and dug down a good 9 inches to get a 1918 Buffalo nickle and why I say when it is deeper the ID seem to read higher as I have seen before on the F-75. I found a few rusty bottle caps too, but no like I normaly do and seen where a coin on top of the ground can give a large target alert too. I see when I get what sounds like a good tone I swing the coil faster and slower if a louder signal and can tell how solid the signal is before I look at the ID, now a weaker signal I use a smaller swing of the coil and look at the ID and see how much the numbers bounce around. The Buffalo I got today only bounce a few numbers unless I was swinging it further past this signal, then it could bounce more.

The F-75 has been getting a bad rap I feel as many of these problem are more operator and setting errors than a defective detector which i am sure some are too. I have tired 3 different F-75 as I too thought mine may be bad, but all 3 worked the same and reading these forums and reading some of the tips on this detector has helped a lot. Also trying some of the advice from the Pros also helped me alot instead of thinking they don't know what they are talking about as I tired that before, but never gave it much time.

Need more time with it to get good and have as much confidence as I do with my Sovereign or my Explorer, but will say I sure enjoy the weight of the F-75 and hope Sun Ray makes a in line probe for it, been using a Uniprobe which is good, but the Sun Ray will disc and help on the good targets.

Rick
 
Well done Nick,

Thas a very informative writeup in a language that many on here will understand.

Thanks Jerry.:ukflag::clapping:
 
[quote JBM]Well done Rick,

Thats a very informative writeup in a language that many on here will understand.

Thanks Jerry.:ukflag::clapping:[/quote]
 
read the part in the manual about not doing the "Minelab wiggle" with the coil, trying to ID a target. They didn't use the Minelab word, but did mention not to try and ID with short little wiggles. They suggested that a minimum sweep about shoulder to shoulder would be better.

I have found that the F75 is a lot happier with a brisk sweep speed over a slow sweep speed. The ID locks in better also.

I don't operate it in the multi tone mode, so I can't comment on that. I use 1 or 2 tones.

Good report :thumbup:
 
Talked to Ralph at Sun Ray a couple of days ago. The F75 probe is in the works and should be available shortly.
 
I know that you're long time successful Minelab user from reading your post on the Explorer forum. I too have MANY hours on the Explorer and Sovs and will always keep them in arms reach when hitting a new site. The F-75 is incredible when enough time is spent to learn how it has to be ran in the hunters environment.
The hardest thing for me was making myself hunt a faster pace than I was use to with the Minelabs after many years of low and slow coil movements.
Everything about the F-75 is FAST other than battery consumption :heh:
I'm liking the 3H tones when I'm not in all metal mode, but it's all in what makes it click for the individual.
I love the On the Fly GB, it's quick and easy enough for anybody. If this machine had ground tracking on it too it would be my main squeeze, I hit a spot in Virginia 2 weeks ago where ground tracking would have been great, the ground changed about ever 20 feet in this particular 40 square yard area.
I watched a guy using a Sov GT with a 10" coil work this area and he wasn't missing much, he told me he'd missed several good targets before he realized the tracking was OFF and he had to go over everything again and found some good ones that he missed before. He only left me a few percussion caps and small lead to find in that particular area.
One good thing about the F-75 though is that if you're hunting ground that changes quickly, it'll let you know it by getting real erratic, a quick GB and everything settles back down.
You're right about operator error being the culprit MOST of the time, the F-75 is a sensitive beast and hits on the tiniest targets I've ever tried to find, I'll be glad when Ralph gets that probe to use, nothing beats the S1 for finding goodies.
Good Hunting
Mike
 
Well written. I have experienced a lot of the conditions that you have. I have found this to be an incredible machine. It is good , positive responses like this that help everyone out there.
 
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