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When I get a signal, the sound fluctuates all over the place and I'm trying to listen for the higher pitch sound where the curser is locked in the upper right of the screen. My question is, if I hear a blip and or see the curser in the upper right corner (silver) area for just a split second should I dig this? I hate where I have to "squeeze" or "scrub" the signal and work hard and try to hear it again. Or is it only worth digging if I get a repeatable signal "bang-bang"?
Another question is pin pointing with the WOT coil. I have the hardest time with it. I hate digging man-hole cover plugs in the parks. I try to get the location on line and then turn 90 degrees but still have problems.Merry Christmas and thanks for the help.
 
Tim -
If you have a hit that you have to work really hard to hear again, it probably isn't a good one. I am talking about blips that you have to hit at a certain angle or speed in order to reproduce. And by probably, I would say at least 90% of the time this is the case.
I got a Periscope in part to check out one-way falses and blips that you have to milk in order to hear. So far, the 'scope says nay nay. I have only gotten 2 good targets out of several hundred I have probed with the Periscope, and they were strong, easily repeatable one-way targets.
Here is something that I have noticed, that may help. The speed of your swing... If you have to move the coil at a certain speed to reproduce the sound, it is probably iron. A good target will pop-off while creeping the coil - iron falses often require a faster moving coil.
It sounds like you are trying to use the Pinpoint button with the WOT. I personally have a better time of it with the edging method. Basically, once you get the good sound, you slowly pull back until the sound disappears, then edge forward until you get it again - repeat until you feel like you know where the target is going under the coil. Then you move off to a right angle (90 degrees) and repeat the process. Once there, you can try to confirm the center with the Pinpoint button.
Regardless of what method you use, you should take the WOT to a ball field or some place without gobs of trash. It will be clean enough for you to perfect pinpointing without becoming totally frustrated.
I hope this helps somewhat!
Tim
 
Tim,
I am no expert on the Explorer, but I find a few things I go by. First I go by the audio before the crosshairs, so it has to be a good signal first that is repeatable in more than one way. After that i will try and get the best signal before I look at the crosshairs and even then if it is a good high pitched repeatable signals and the crosshairs do not show in the silver area I will dig.
Unless you know your Explorer well I wouldnt use the WOT yet as it will just give you more targets under the coil at one time to confusse you more. I found by using the 8 inch help me learn the Explorer better.
Rick
 
Thanks the the help. I have been detecting since early 70's. My first machine was a Heath Kit I put togather myself. It was a fun machine and in those days you could find alot of stuff. Since then I have had Garrett, Tasoro, Red Heat a machine from England and now the Minelab. I do like the Minelab alot but find that it is like no other machine and that the user has to relearn detecting. It's hard to teach an old dog new tricks. thanks again
 
I agree with everything you had to say, Rick. The 8" coil is decidedly a much easier coil to learn with. So much so that some folks never take it off, which is a shame, as the larger coils do have a lot to offer.
The pinpointing issues are not really Minelab specific. Anyone using a double-d coil is going to have to relearn pinpointing. It is just the nature of the beast.
Tim
 
all someone has to do, is make up their mind they will be willing to put in all the necessary time it takes to reach the level their looking to achieve. It's as basic a machine using the factory program or as complicated as one's self constructed program. I've been using one around 14 months now(many hours under my belt), and I keep learning all the time. I read the posts on this and other forums daily and I offer any knowledge that I can, while feeling guilty because there are so many more knowledgable users out there. The best thing I feel one can do to speed up the learning process, which we all want to do, is try to get to hunt with one of these people who live within a distance you'd be willing to travel. It's like learning to kiss, it's a lot easier with a partner, HH
 
Tim
You mentioned something about difficulty in pinpointing. It is actually fairly easy to do.
A previous post to your message mentioned something about pinpointing using the "edging method", rather than turning 90 degrees and making an X. This 90 degree/X techniques has never worked for me.
Try this, when you get a hit, get a basic idea of where object is in your mind, then move coil away a few inches and hit your pinpoint button. When you come back over the object, you will get your tell-tell low tone pin point sound.
If you remain over the object the pinpoint sound will continue to sound. ( I will usually move the coil to side of object until sound stops and then move back in opposite direction until sound stops again. this give me an idea how long or big the object is ). However, continuing with pinpointing, when you have the constant pinpoint hum "edge" your coil slowly back toward your feet. As soon as the hum stops, you should have a good idea where the object is.
Look at my picture posted......when hum stops as you edge back toward your feet the object will be where the X is on the coil. This technique holds true with any of the coils ( I use WOT, 8", and stock coil and only use this pinpointing method).
Once the pinpoint sound stops, move coil to side just an inch or so and visually pick the spot on ground and start digging. I am usually right on target using this method.
The only problem that may occur is if there are 2 objects under your coil (you may only think there is 1 object). As you 'edge' back toward your feet your coil may pass over the original target and pickup the 2nd item and continue giving you a 'pinpoint hum'. If you edge back further than where your 'rough guess of where the object was' you will miss the object when you dig. If this occurs, this is when you would want to turn 90 degrees or more and use the same technique as described above. This time, the 2nd object wont be in your field and you will get right on the intended target.
If this occurs, go back over general area and see if the second target is any good.
hope this not too confusing. It is absolutely logical in my warped mind <IMG SRC="/forums/images/smile.gif" BORDER=0 ALT=":)">
By the way, this is easy to practice. Throw coin down, pinpoint over it, move coil back, move it to side and see where coin is in reference to your coil.
Good luck
Gadgetman
 
First take the WOT off and put it in the closet for awhile. Second if youv'e got the 8" put it on and use it till you really feel you need that extra depth. The WOT is for advanced users who really know the machine and reasonably clean areas. Third if you don't already have it get the X-1 probe. It will end the pinpoint problems. You will find that almost all the seasoned users have it and wouldn't be without it. It will tell you if you need to go deeper and keep the hole size to the min. I seldom use the pinpoint button at all. once you get a target under the coil just rock side to side keeping it under the center strip and back up until it goes away then slowly forward until it just starts to hit again and it will be right at the front center of the coil as showen in the pic from gadgetman. I find this to be faster and more accurate than the pinpoit button.
 
Hey Houndawgg- Sounds like you are finding good stuff. I find when hunting at the beach with the WOT that targets sounding off in discrimination sometimes won't make a noise in pinpoint until I dig some sand. Too deep for the pinpoint I think. After I take a scoop of sand out the pinpoint will normally soundoff. Not like other machines and not much like other Minelabs, but a gold finder..Nes
 
If the target is say 5+ inches deep try this...the center 4-6 inches of the WOT hits stronger than the ends, sweep where you think the target is with the front 5 inches of the coil, then the center, you should get a stronger signal, now you got it narrowed to a 6 inch plug. Also watch the depth meter, it will read shallowest when directly over the target and deeper if its hitting out on the end. Also remember the WOT is off 2-3 inches in depth i.e. targets read 2-3 inches deeper than they really are. Turn 90 degrees and go again, realise though that really deep coins like 8-12 are difficult to pinpoint sharper than a 6 inch plug, at least thats the best I can do. Also, on edge coins throw a signal off to the side so work those on edge signals better, use the power zone in the center of the coil.
Here's another pinpointing trick I use with all coils, I sweep where it isn't. I get it down to say a 6 inch circle, then I start slicing into that with the front and back edge of the coil, try to slice off a couple inches from both sides, you can get down to a 4 inch circle on deep ones if you work this method but you start risking a gouged coin if its tipped on edge, still I dug a few hundred with the WOT and generally I get them dead center of the plug. I'm still off to the side most of the time with the stock coil.
If your targets are shallow, 6 inches or less take the WOT off and use a smaller coil.
Surface targets or near surface targets are the WOT's enemy, this coil is pretty hot and you can pick up a surface target out in front of the coil several inches. So its important to check around your target too. I check a coil size circle around my target so I know exactly where everything is and to make sure I'm not just picking up a surface target.
If you know there is some trash near your target, just sneak into it with the front few inches of the coil, pivot on the back edge moving the front edge just a few inches back and forth across your target.
 
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