I recently traded my Explorer II stock coil for the Explorer SE slimline coil. Have not tried it yet as it is in shipment. I wanted to see if the slimline coil will help balance the weight on the machine better. Some say the coil is noisier. Can anyone give some feedback that has used the slimline coil on their Explorer II?
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Explorer SE coil on the Explorer II
- Thread starter JBTN
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Neil
Well-known member
Id like to hear your input on it once you get it. I have an Explorer II coming today, a used one with the stock coil. I also have a Sov GT with the 10" Tornado coil which looks to use the same housing as the slimline you have coming. It is lighter than the ones before it and also more sensitive in my opinion so you will probably need to keep your sens a little lower than your used to.
Good luck with it,
Neil
Had I been able to find a nice used SE for a good price I would have gotten one over the EX II.
I certainly didnt buy it for the coil
Good luck with it,
Neil
Had I been able to find a nice used SE for a good price I would have gotten one over the EX II.
I certainly didnt buy it for the coil
Hi,
Yes. I opened the forum today to see if anyone could comment on the same thing. I've been through 3 stock coils in less than three years with my EXII. Twice because the lugs snapped and once with a cable short. Minelab has been great about replacing the bad ones. The last time they replaced the "stock" coil with the Slimline - even though I urged them to provide a replacement "stock" if possible.
I would say it is lighter. It also has been somewhat disappointing, in that it goes nuts in wet sand or salt water (as does my WOT coil) . I'm not completely sure it doesn't have a fault besides -- but a call to Minelab confirmed that it is more sensitive than the older style coil and that I need to dial down the sensitivity in the salt. Thought I had done this at the beach, without much success, so will also have to try it on dry land just to make sure something else isn't the problem.
I also suspect that I'm not getting as great a depth out of the Slimline. Can anyone confirm or refute this?
The beauty of the old stock coil was that it handled the salt without a hitch -- so I'm looking for a way to get my hands on another one.
Fortunately, on one occasion Minelab returned a broken (lugs) stock coil along with its replacement. I asked the guys at Minelab if there is a product that could be used to repair the broken lugs and they turned me on to an epoxy that is supposed to do the trick. It arrived a couple of days ago - and I'll give it a try.
On the positive side, Minelab says that the lugs on the Slimline should be more robust.
Would be interested in anyone else's experience with the slim vs. original coil.
Thanks,
Dan in MA
Yes. I opened the forum today to see if anyone could comment on the same thing. I've been through 3 stock coils in less than three years with my EXII. Twice because the lugs snapped and once with a cable short. Minelab has been great about replacing the bad ones. The last time they replaced the "stock" coil with the Slimline - even though I urged them to provide a replacement "stock" if possible.
I would say it is lighter. It also has been somewhat disappointing, in that it goes nuts in wet sand or salt water (as does my WOT coil) . I'm not completely sure it doesn't have a fault besides -- but a call to Minelab confirmed that it is more sensitive than the older style coil and that I need to dial down the sensitivity in the salt. Thought I had done this at the beach, without much success, so will also have to try it on dry land just to make sure something else isn't the problem.
I also suspect that I'm not getting as great a depth out of the Slimline. Can anyone confirm or refute this?
The beauty of the old stock coil was that it handled the salt without a hitch -- so I'm looking for a way to get my hands on another one.
Fortunately, on one occasion Minelab returned a broken (lugs) stock coil along with its replacement. I asked the guys at Minelab if there is a product that could be used to repair the broken lugs and they turned me on to an epoxy that is supposed to do the trick. It arrived a couple of days ago - and I'll give it a try.
On the positive side, Minelab says that the lugs on the Slimline should be more robust.
Would be interested in anyone else's experience with the slim vs. original coil.
Thanks,
Dan in MA
Hi Dan, The slimline coil came and I have it on my Explorer 2. I put it through its paces in the coin garden. In comparison with the original 2 coil, On coins from 6" to 9" I could not tell any difference in depth. It seem to have identical performance. Also I set the sensitivity to 26 and did a noise cancel. The detector was stable with no falsing. Later I did take it to a local wooded area and hunted some. It seem find and at times I could run the sensitivity at 28. The big benefit is it has good balance and and is a tad lighter. After swinging it for an hour with no arm strain. It has the looks of the tornado coil. Lets hear some feedback from other folks.
JLBTN
JLBTN
Thanks, JB
It's been too frozen up here to try the coin coin garden.
How big were the coins at 9"? If you could pull a dime at 9, that would be satisfying. I used to get quarters at the beach @ 12"+ with the original coil. Hoping the Slimline will do the same. Still irked about the salt water performance, though. Am waiting for some time and weather to get out again and see if I can make it work. --Dan
It's been too frozen up here to try the coin coin garden.
How big were the coins at 9"? If you could pull a dime at 9, that would be satisfying. I used to get quarters at the beach @ 12"+ with the original coil. Hoping the Slimline will do the same. Still irked about the salt water performance, though. Am waiting for some time and weather to get out again and see if I can make it work. --Dan
Neil
Well-known member
I just picked up a used SE and tried it today at salt water bay beach. I ran the stock settings except I adjusted the threshold lower and also ran in iron mask, had that set on 28 (preset was 22 if I remember right). The SE ran smooth as silk, just like my EXII or Sov GT does. A few of the deeper coins were mostly pennies and they were down near a foot. Some were deeper but I gave up on them as the holes were filling in with water so quickly and I was using a hand scoop. I dug several pull tabs rings near the same depth also. One thing I noticed was that if I got the coil submerged I would then have to tip it to drain the water out of the cover or it would false. Its definetly a lighter feeling coil, and a much thinner overall look to it. should be better for wading if one does that(I do when at a lake or bay beach, warmer weather that is
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Its easy to see the SE has a faster processor when going from screen to screen. Minelab streamlined the menu also. Not so sure if I like the VCO on this though, I tried it several times and just went back to what I know, heel or toe pinpointing.
HH
Neil
)Its easy to see the SE has a faster processor when going from screen to screen. Minelab streamlined the menu also. Not so sure if I like the VCO on this though, I tried it several times and just went back to what I know, heel or toe pinpointing.
HH
Neil
Hi Neil,
On the SE with the Slimline coil and the VCO pinpoint I notice when it is pinpointed the target will be about a couple of inches in front to the center where the older coils it was about a inch from the front tip of the coil. I wonder if anyone else see this.
On the SE with the Slimline coil and the VCO pinpoint I notice when it is pinpointed the target will be about a couple of inches in front to the center where the older coils it was about a inch from the front tip of the coil. I wonder if anyone else see this.
Neil
Well-known member
this is what I noticed also Rick. Im so used to pinpointing by the tip and heel of the coil that this threw me off a bit. I tried it again a few times at the ocean yesterday and it will take some getting used to for sure.
on a different note, I was able to run the sens high if I wanted with the slimline in the wet sand and no problems at all. The physical advantage of a lighter coil with better balance was again evident. The explorers and sovs are heavy detectors but this coil along with the tornados for the sov are steps in the right direction.
HH
Neil
on a different note, I was able to run the sens high if I wanted with the slimline in the wet sand and no problems at all. The physical advantage of a lighter coil with better balance was again evident. The explorers and sovs are heavy detectors but this coil along with the tornados for the sov are steps in the right direction.
HH
Neil
Frank in NH
Active member
n/t
Just remember that you can't swich to the probe while in pinpoint, first switch on the probe and then hit the pinpoint button. I would be crushed if the SE didn't have that VCO pinpointing. I rarely use the VCO with the coil itself, I just "X mark the spot"... swinging east to west then north to south, cut a plug and then immediately switch on my probe and hit pinpoint. The VCO and the SR probe combined make recoveries take half the time.