Explorer II issue in Florida beaches using WoT coil.

[TechBill]

I am vacationing in Florida near Jupiter at Juno Beach and I seem to been having some unstable noise when trying to detect on the wet sand where the waves are hitting the beach ..

I am using Explorer II with the WoT coils and It very stable on dry sand but while detecting in wet sand, anytime a wave come in and wash on the sand it get unstable for several seconds then it will stable out ..

I didn't notice this issue in the past when I use my Excalibur with WoT coil (I go to Florida alots and this is my first time using an Explorer II) but my Excalibur would get unstable like a second as the wave comes and stable out quickly ..


I am curious what Explorer settings are you all using down there with your Explorer II or what you think is the best setting to use .. So far I am trying Iron Mask -14 and it's a bit unstable in salt water compare to Excalibur.

WoT coil is new so I doubt it got a leak or anything like that, I just pretty much think if it had a leak it would had been unstable all the time not just when it only went into salt water ..

I had the sens set at 30-28 but lowered it to 18-16 with no noticable improvement ..


Any suggestion as to what to set or do with this issues.


Thanks,
Bill

 

[Buddy Ga]

Not sure about the WOT and the EXP 2 but my 14" excellarator won't let me get over about 12 on sens in the wet stuff without falsing like crazy, I mainly use the Excal with the WOT on the beach now...

HH Buddy

 

[GraveDiggerMax-VaBch-Va]

i have been running mine with no coil cover, but i added it today and it seemed to help some

could be a mind thing toooo

b u t it will let u know when u hit a target...............even with the falsing

 

[TechBill]

n/t

 

[therick]

Saltwater is caused by a mineral.....salt. When you get a V.L.F. machine near moving salt water, what you basically have is highly mineralized water rushing underneath the coil. This will cause "falsing" and an unstable thresh hold. By turning down the sensitivity, you'll greatly reduce the instability and at the same time, depth. This is why I have always used a PI machine in salt water because there are no affects of saltwater or mineralization on these units. The negative is that you cannot discriminate trash and you have to dig all targets. I personally would prefer to dig everything rather than reduce my depth and miss that "once in a lifetime" find. Anyway, that's the way it was explained to me, feel free to correct me if I misunderstood anything.
Good luck and happy hunting. therick

 

[imakeitwork]

I run the same setup on my Exp. II and I know exactly what your talking about. When I first got the WOT I thought it was a big mistake but as all things go you give it a little time and get "used" to it and it's the best thing since sliced bread. I have worked those same beaches in Juno many times and it's not the beach it's just the machine. I run mine in IM -14 but you cannot run the sensitivity over about 18 or you just go crazy with all the falsing in the wet sand. Your not loosing depth because you've got a much bigger coil than stock so turning the sensitivity down is not a problem. I've routinely dug quarters at 14-16" at this setting with no problem. The WOT is a very sensitive coil and that's a good and a bad thing. There are some beaches near there where I have not been able to stabilize the threshold due to some kind of microwave or radio interference even using the noise cancel feature. Anyway hope this helps and by the way you do get used to the falsing and after a while you just don't hear it anymore....but when you do hit a target there's just no doubt.

HH Mike T. in Stuart, FL

 

[Charles (Upstate NY)]

I'm down at the NJ shore near Atlantic City as I write this for a few days of beach hunting and I noticed the same issue, fairly stable in the dry sand but out in the wet sand or in the water the coils false quite a bit. This was true of both the stock coil and a 11x14 custom coil I'm testing here.

This became annoying this morning when I was hunting so I did a little tuning. First I turned down my sens from 28 to 24, that didn't help at all. Then I said wait a minute, this sounds a lot like the ground back in NY when I have my gain too high. Back in NY if I run my gain at 8-10 I get so many loud false signals its nearly impossible to hunt. BUT if I turn my gain down to 7 the false signals become noticeably fainter than coins, faint enough that they fade into what I call low volume background chatter. Yet if I sweep a coin I still get a loud signal, much louder than the falsing.

Now I'm at the beach, the false signals are quite loud, louder than dirt back home. But at the same time the coins and jewelry signals are even louder. I have been surprised at just how loud the coins sound on the beach and the increase in depth.

Hmmm says I, I backed my gain off from 7 to 5 and presto all those annoying false signals got quiet, they are still there mind you but they sit in the background like background chatter yet the coins still scream loud and clear.

I spent a couple hours hunting this way right in the waves with the 11x14 inch coil. I think I may try backing the gain off to 4 at low tide tonight.

 

[TechBill]

but I still get some faults just not as much.


I also use Excal with WoT coil in the water with water up to my head and I use snokle to breath but detect like if I was on a dry land .. It seem to fault anytime a coil is lifted several inches from the sand underwater but as long I keep it steady on the sand swinging back and forth and this way I hardly get any faults ..


I am mainly a fresh water hunter and do not hunt in salt often so salt water hunting is still sorta new to me even I been doing it for the past 8 years but I been hunting in fresh water for more than 16 years.

Bill

 

[Anonymous]

Max how are you this is Tom from Chincoteague,Island Va. Wife Sandy passed away in Dec and i moved back to Pa to be closer to our sons.