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Experiences of someone new

raptro5618

New member
I think that this site is so helpful in gaining knowledge that it would take years to learn on your own and in many cases to learn things that I would never have come up with on my own. Being new to this I thought that perhaps I should share my experiences so far.

I bought one of those $20 bounty hunters to see if I might like doing this and if I would be able to go out in public with a MD. I tried it, found a few pennies in my back yard and decided to jump in with two feet and bought a used Quattro.

In the beginning it was very frustrating. I read the book over and over, air tested coins, tried things in the yard, reread the book, in fact read it over and over many times. It still was frustrating going out several times and at best finding a penny or two. But I decided this was like working out. Until you get in shape or get the proper experience it just sucks. I went to what I thought should be good sites, playgrounds, beaches, etc and found almost nothing. But I was getting better. I went to a property that had been used as a fort, was a battlefield, a mill and a cross road. You guessed it. I found nothing but junk. That was the low point. I read some more, checked on tones and settings and tried some other things. No I did not have a test garden my yard has almost no spot that is devoid of garbage. Too lazy to clear a section out.

But then I started putting things together. One day I found a few pennies but dug almost no junk in an area filled with junk. Then a quarter and a few pennies, some junk but I guess that goes with the territory. This weekend in just a few hours I was pulling mostly coins with some junk that was interesting anyway.

My experience is that I think starting in coin was good in the beginning but I have found that all metal is the best at figuring things out. Reading the book over and over as well as writing down what number an item shows up as and what the tone sounds like helped a lot. I mostly look for coins. For now I need success and they are easy to detect and very little else sounds the same. I now get anxious to go out and I have sites that I know should be good. That old property is still there too.

My biggest problem is getting some kind of procedure for doing things. I find something set the detector down, try to untangle the head phone. Can
 
I can remember the guy who got us started in metal detecting only used a thin flimsy knife to dig his "plugs" that were no more than a couple inches. Amazingly he found some good stuff but it took us a long time to develop the proper "techniques"(he was not showing us the best methods).

All the mechanics of what tool to use, how to cut the plug, use or not use a pinpointer, what type of headphones, how to set the detector down....all come with experience.

Strap? - don't use one. When I did I would set it just loose enough to slip my arm out and then back in.

Gotta get headphones with just the right length - too short and can't dig with them on - too long and start getting tangled. I set the detector down about just in front of where the plug is going to be dug. Dig the plug. Stand up and sweep the plug and continue...

Sounds like you are on your way. Every time you reach a new level of experience with the detector you will have to re-hunt the same spots you did when you were greener.

Good luck.
 
yes it really is amazing how much better I am now compared to in the beginning. Reading what everyone else has learned gives you a big start and help you get over those humps that you cannot figure out alone.

I think I have some sort of system figured out now but I still think in time it will get better. I still dig bigger plugs, partially because I do not trust I got the right spot, especially when there is a lot of garbage to confuse the issue, and secondly It seems to be easier to replace it so that you cannot tell I was there. The smaller ones especially where the grass is not that great seem to fall apart.

I know I still have a long way but I have at least gotten to the point where at times I am fairly sure it is a coin and not junk and when I dig something that is not certain it could be either a coin or junk but I know that before I dig.

This is addicting.
 
Raptro. Are you sure you don't have a "long lost brother out there named Marc Trainor"??? I can identify with you so much it scares me.:spin::clapping::confused::wiggle: If I'm readin' you right, you've done EVERYTHING, you're supposed to do and your still bummed about not finding a 1909 s VDB penny or something. Me too!!!!, but you know what??? You did buy the right detector. You did buy the right training book by Andy Sabisch, and it sure looks like to me you're doing all the right things. Now I know that you're gonna R-E-E-L (freak out) when I say this, but you know it's true, and furthmore, it's true for ALL of us to one degree or another. FOR GOD'S SAKE, DON'T GIVE UP, and please, don't get too discouraged and sell your detector. I honestly believe this is on e of the best detectors out there, period. If I can't back it up with some of my stories, I know these other folks can and do back it up on the web site, and I absolutuly agree with you that it's a WONDERFUL THING, that we all have this great web site where we can not only share, but receive terriffic information on our specific detector, and/or, detecting in general. What a deal!!! We not only have our own personal experionce to learn from, but the experience of others with the same detector (mind you), who seem to share freely their experiences good or bad with the whole world. I love it, and don't you DARE, quit or put that detector in the closet for too long, because I gaurantee you if you don't quit your gonna get there, and have your day too, just like Mike, (AMAZING) Mike from Virginia Beach told me a while back in one of my discouraging posts. You just keep sharing with us and we'll back you up, no matter what.:twodetecting::crazy::wiggle:;)
 
Thanks for the pep talk. No I think the bug i.e. addiction has gotten to me. I am lucky to have a park that I am sure no one has been on with a detector only 4 blocks from my house. So when it is not in use I run up there if only for 30 minutes.

Some of the things I read and tried are finally starting to bring in results. No nothing great in fact nothing even silver yet but I know they are their as many of the coins I am finding are early 70's

I can go for a short time and pretty much every time I find something. I think and rethink about an old farm I can go to when I go to WVir. First time was a disaster but I think I will have better results when I go back.

Every time out I try and learn something new or try some things I have read about. Some work for me so do not but I know every time out I am getting better.

I think this machine is great but I am very tempted to go to the Explorer SE. I decided I will keep the quattro as a back up since I doubt I could sell it for very much. This hobby is great and my next step is to hook up with others in my area.

In any case you can be sure that there is one more diehard MD'r as I go out virtually every chance I get and when I only have a short time sometimes I just go around my yard. there are so many tagets I am thinking of taking small areas and digging everything. I got one penny dated 1920 which was in awful condition so there could be more out there that I did not ID or is hidden by all the crap burried in my yard.
 
Hi Raptro, are you talking about the new Explorer SE? Before you decide to up grade, learn your Quattro well first, because the last thing you need is a much more complicated and noisy machine, with a whole new set of bells and whistles to learn. At least the Quattro teaches you how to get into the mode of a barrage of sounds, learning to decipher them, and know what they're telling you first is a step in the right direction. I use the Explorer 2 also, but it still has me wondering about how some of it's reading and tones correlate. And I've been using the Quattro fairly extensively for almost two years.
:)
 
Raptro, I'm jelous. You found a 1920 penny? I used to be a coin collector before I got into metal detecting, so I know a little about coins, but I'm so thrilled with your good attitude. I somehow relate to you very much. Sounds to me like your hooked and I'm so glad. I know some day you and (I hope me too) are gonna get on here and share some pictures of some old indian heads or silver dollars or something great.
I feel a littl guilty about my last post where I said the Quatro was the end of the road PERIOD.... You know I love that detector, and I really believe it's ONE of the greatest, but I wouldn't throw away and Explorer II, if you gave me one. Are you kidding? I had to think that statement over for a while, and I would like to (rieterate) here, at least as far as I'm concerned: I think it all depends on what you're doing and your personal preference. If you want a great (truly waterproof detector) I think it's hard to beat an excallibur. If you want two numeric readouts and great depth and everything else, "it's hard to beat an Explorer II", if we both read some of the other posts, the cz70 or some of the other detectors out there are pretty darn good, but in the end, I think we're all pretty lucky that there are some GREAT detectors available to us these days. I'm just saying this in general. I know this is the Quatro site and I own a Quatro, but, forgive me, I'm just speaking my mind, but at this point, I'm still hanging on to my Quatro, and thy'll have to pry it from my cold, dead fingers, to get it away from me.:wacko::crazy::clapping::super:;) And, oh..., by the way, I still believe... that if it ain't under the coil, you AIN'T,... gonna find it, but if it is under the coil, I think the Quatro can find it. PERIOD....:wiggle::crazy:,...as long as your in all metal mode.... Just an inside joke there. Let's face it, now matter what detector you have you have to be over the target to find it.:cheers::crazy:;) Again, happy hunting every one, and I have to say again this is a wonderful, (mental therapy) site as well.
 
Yes I agree if it is there it will let you know it is there. I am fairly new to this so I am thinking that before I get too set in with the quattro that I may just as well learn the Explorer SE.

I think that both are probably close in terms of finding things but I like having a bit more info to go by. I agree, with your one statement as long as you are in all metal. Until I made the switch to all metal it was pretty frustrating. I still dig iffy questionable targets when things are slow and get garbage but there are some signals that I just know it is something.
 
that you'll learn from, like, what's what in the ground before you've dug, and if a signal is worth diging or not.
 
I think your hooked, Raptro. That's a good thing, in my opinion. I'm not sure what the SE is on the Explorer. I thought the "new" explorer was the Explorer II. I guess I'm out of touch, but I know the Explorer II has 2 different readings, one for ferrous and one for conductivity, which should give you a little more info on deciding whether to dig the target or not, but I've read from past posts of guys who had both the Explorer and the Quatro and one of them Mike, from Virginia Beach, (I believe) he said the Quatro went probably as deep as the explorer but didn't have quite as many features, since it's one step down from the Explorer. In all honesty, I LOVE my Quatro, but I'd also love to own an Explorer II, for the fact that it has the two numeric readouts and a few other features that are cool, but I can't afford one yet. To me it's the difference between a Honda Acord and an Acura. They're both made by the same company, both great cars, but the Acura is the flagship model of the Honda company. Good to hear your in there "pluggin" in the real sense too, and by the way, there were som "really great" posts about zerowing in on the target in earlier posts on this site for the Quatro. You might want to check them out. You know "these guys" will try anything to better their detecting experience, and so will I and probably you to. Hey, let's face it, whey not, it's not hurting anyone to try different techniques and we can all learn from it. Sometimes just the simpelest little "quirk" or movement, or whatever can make a difference. I love the ingunuity of this sport. It's almost like fine tuning a good carburator or something. I talked to a guy who was a mechanic for Nascar, (there at the race track) and he said, it can get down to hundreths of a second on the little things you do to the car or the race that can make the difference. I think it's the same for metal detecting. Sometimes that faint whisper of a sound could mean a target or hopefully a great target.;)
 
Golden, if you've used both the Quatro and the Explorer, what do you think about comparing the two? My understandin is that the main thing the Explorer has over the Quatro is two numeric readouts, one for conductivity and one for ferous. If you've explored that aspect, what do you think about the difference. I love my Quatro, but it sounds like the extra "info" of the two readouts could be a real plus. Just wondering?
 
simply because I haven't put as much time into learning the detector. I almost always go back to the Quattro, as it's such a great detector for anything other than gold nuggets (won't pick up the tiny ones). The features I love about the Explorer is how finely you can discriminate to target specific things. But the downside is you also could lose rings or other "keepers" within the discriminated sections. As fine a detector it is, I think the detector has to suit you, for what you get out of it, for the type of detecting you want to do, and how much of a challenge you up to. I went for the Quattro initially because it seemed less complicated for my first relic/coin machine, and I was right. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, at the end of the day, when I'm out with my friends who have the Explorer 2, and I'm using the Quattro, I find more keepers than they do. I've seen them sometimes struggle with pinpointing a target, to lose it, or missing targets for the discriminating. And there are so many variables with the Explorer, as seen with constant users, you can learn it as good as the Quattro, given the time you spend with it. One thing I have to be honest here is, the Explorer "does" go a little deeper on the goldfields than the Quattro. I've gone over ground where a target is hidden, the Quattro didn't pick it up, but the Explorer did. The depth was just out of range for the Quattro, but only just, about an inch or so, but enough to make a difference. Anyway, feel like I've waffled here, so enough said.
Cheers Golden:detecting::):minelab:
 
That's a very informative post Golden. Fascinating, to me. I still haven't used or worked with people with an Explorer, but I've read the owners manual and talked to Explorer owners, and what your saying makes sense. I'm a little surprised about the depth being better on the Explorer, but you know, let's face it, it is the model above the Quatro and it does have two numeric readouts for more information, etc. , but I'm tickeled that you find more stuff in a given day with the Quatro. I guess we'd have to buy one of the "gold specific" detectors, by Minelab in order to really zero in on the small gold nuggets, and they're pretty pricy, but I read a few posts of some of them and they're pretty sensitive and go pretty deep. Man,this thing keeps you going, as far as learning curve, experience, trial and error, technical knowledge, etc. and on and on. I love it. It gets frustrating sometimes but what a challenge and what an opportunity to use what we have here to find some really great stuff.:geek::(:O:|
 
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